HI all - has anyone tried to fit one of these kits below to a 2021-2023 FType AWD? I installed a set of VAP lowering springs, but those didn't give me the stance I wanted. I am hoping these KWs fit as they will give me more control over the stance. KW can only confirm these fit R AWD models up to 2020. Hoping someone has experience or knowledge that can help.

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Many thanks!

 

I'm also considering VAP springs and KW HAS springs for my 2021 F-type. Hopefully someone can chime in regarding KW HAS compatibility with 2021+ models. Out of curiosity, do you have pictures of your car with VAP springs? Curious to see how the stance looks considering they seem to be highly regarded on this forum.

 

Yep - attached. Things to note - my left front gap was about 1/8" lower than may right front gap. It came that way from the factory. Maybe a shock that hasn't settled, Im not sure. It also think that some of the newer models have more of a rake to their stance stock, versus an even gap from fender to wheel on all 4 sides. I am going for a more even gap all around, so im hoping the KWs can do that. For AWD (if the KWs work) they say that the drop is .8", about 2 millimeters less than the VAPS, BUT I have spoken with someone who has the KWs on their 2019 SVR, and he said that they had the ability to get lower than that on his.



Before / After VAP

 

Thanks for sharing the pic. I hear you, not a big fan of the rake. I wish VAP would release an updated set of springs for a more even look. With VAP springs you have there, I think the front is a little too low, the car looks slammed whereas the rear could be tiny bit lower. I also saw on another post that you ordered yourself the KW HAS kit. Would appreciate if you can share your results with them.

 

Yep. I’m hoping the KWs fit and go a bit lower than the .8” average they say. If not, that’s as low as my rear can get.

 

Update - the KWs fit my 2023 AWD R with slight modifications to the perch. I haven't gotten it back yet, but they were able to drop a lot more than the 20mm as advertised. Will post pics when I pick it up next week.

 

Picked up today - the speed shop said they had no issues installing.

 

Looks much better than the VAP springs with that weird rake. I prefer a slightly less slammed look in general mostly for drivability but regardless this is how lowering should be. How is the ride compared to the VAP springs with the car lowered this much on KW?

 

The ride is great. Really happy I went this route. I am sure the VAPS are fine on some, but from what i can tell, the newer models have a larger rake than the older models from the factory, (or at least mine did) and the VAPs lower it the same amount on all 4 sides. I have a lot more flexibility now.

 

Hey guys,

I know it's been a while since this thread last saw some action, but just wondering if anyone else has fitted these and their experience, especially on a facelift RWD P450.

Happy with the ride quality? Hopfully no firer. Any issues to note?

Easy enough to adjust with the wheels off?

 

You can definitely expect a firmer ride than stock. the lower the adjustment, the more firm. For me, it isnt uncomfortable, and is totally fine - but my wife says she notices a big difference. BUT she drives a comfy RR Sport, so she expects all cars to drive that comfy, and well, they just don't. The F-Type is a GT sports car not a luxury comfort ride. Note that I have a 575HP 2023 R. I KNOW the KWs fit mine just fine. I can't vouch for a 450HP but I ASSUME the suspension is the exact same on a 2023 575R and a 2023 450R. But I can't confirm for certain.

 

Ho hum..been considering these..i don't really want to drop the height..just want a firmer ride because the rear shock seems to struggle with sudden elevation changes at speed. Any experience with this post install?

 

Many thanks for the response. As you quite rightly state, since the springs are progressive, the opinions on ride quality will certainly differ depending on the setup. Yours does look lower than I would set mine which would probably be somewhere in between yours and stock to avoid scraping the front of the car. I also don't want to make the car any more uncomfortable, sport mode is already too firm on my country locals road unless really pushing on when I appreciate the firmer setup.

According to the KW website, the part numbers are same from P575 AWD and P450 RWD, which is a little surprising, but I guess the beauty of the setup is you'll always be able to dial in that perfect ride height. I know VAP have been struggling to get consistent results on the rear of the facelift cars. I've been speaking to them, but they still don't have a revised product for the market yet.

 

VAP offers custom spring rates/heights if you reach out to them directly to discuss your needs as well. Most do not know that.

 

Hi! My mechanic tried to install the KW HAS kit yesterday (Product Code "25331005" which should be for all AWD cars from 2013). My car is a 2021 P450 AWD (Phase 3 facelift V8 AWD)

The front spring assembly is way too long and would increase ride height at the front by over 1". He installed the front springs without the helper spring and at the max low setting it still sits about same height as stock if even a bit higher. The front spring is specified as a 130-70-200 (130 spring rate, 70mm inner diameter, 200mm lenght) in the install instruction and on the physical spring itself.

Rears fit perfectly (and can lower a lot more than then 20mm specified).

I checked the specs (in the install instruction found online) on the RWD kit (ending "003" instead of 005) and it has the same helper and main spring lenghts 75mm + 200mm main spring but a 120 spring rate vs 130 on the AWD (I guess for added weight). The shock would be very different though on the RWD and AWD variants on the front due to the front drive axles.

I just dont understand why the kit wont fit on my car, the KW spec sheet clearly states P450 AWD (which is a 2021+ facelift only model with V8)...

I have seen in a few other instances that there are two spring lenghts on the F-Type front, these are H&R springs from different kits, the right was the correct one for his 2015 V8 R RWD and the left is for what he mentiones V6 model?

Front H&R springs for different F-Type kits. His car was a 2015 RWD V8 R and the right spring was the correct one for his car, he says that the left was for the V6? But havnt seen anywhere else that the V6 has a different spring than V8 though it would make sense from slightly less weight up front...

I will speak with KW today but not sure what they can do, maybe I can source a shorter spring but couldnt find one from KW that matches what I would need...

@sundaram You mentioned "slight modification to the perch" done when installing, any clue what that could have been to make the kit fit as well as it does on your car??

 

Got the KW install sorted today!! It was human error! The solution was just to pack the whole spring assembly together and set the adjustment base to the absolutely lowest point and the front got lowered by maybe 20mm, more like 15mm. Luckily that is exactly what I wanted so it was 100% perfect to me, but it did NOT go as low as @sundaram has his on the front on the above pics. Rear can be lowered from almost stock down by something like 50mm.

The V6 F-Types has longer springs front (same lenght front and rear), V8's have shorter springs front. KW kit has 10NM harder springs up front for the AWD version vs the RWD version (130NM vs 120NM RWD), otherwise its identical and it fits both V6 and V8 cars due to the front adjustment screw can accomodate both the longer sprint on the V6 and the shorter on the V8. Rear suspension is identical between V6 and V8 cars.

The ride, chassie feedback and steering got a lot more direct with minimal impact on comfort + significantly improved stance! Very happy with the install, but if you want the front to be really low the KW kit as it comes is likely not for you.

 

Glad you got it sorted especially as this is a kit I've been thinking about, albeit for my RWD P450.

Would love to see a few pictures once the ride height has settled and your continued impressions as you do more miles, especially on handling and comfort.