LED headlight recomendations?
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05-30-2017, 01:19 AM
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My new CBI bulbs rolled up a couple of hours ago, and thanks to your help they are now in. Compared to stock they seem a lot whiter and brighter, although so far the only test has been one of each shining on my garage wall.
I didn't need any toothpicks, I just bent the cable connector locking clips open with my favourite ever trusty all-purpose universal MacGyver tool, AKA a thumbnail, then I pushed them off with a small screwdriver.
It took me a while to figure out that you don't twist the bulb/igniter itself, instead you twist the black plastic locking ring behind it using the two tabs on that ring.
The passenger side one was a bear to get at, I couldn't get the power steering fluid reservoir far enough out of the way to both see and feel what I was doing inside the back of the light housing. What worked for me in the end, to make enough room, was to loosen off the mounting bracket clamp on the PS reservoir and rotate it a bit so then I could jam it out the way.
In a couple of hours I will go for a test drive to check out the lights, and also to see if or how much readjusting (left/right up/down) they need, as pulling out and pushing back in the bulbs caused the housings to wobble all over the shop and who knows where they are now pointing!
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05-30-2017, 05:20 AM
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05-31-2017, 09:33 AM
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Before I begin, I tried to take side by side pics but my iPhone just washed out all the colour
if anyone has any tips let me know
so I put the Brex in tonight, colour is perfect, cut off has heaps of purple so driving you see street signs illuminate purple just like projector leds - in fact reversing out of my driveway the colour looked identical to the leds on my f80 m3
the bad news is the output just isn't good enough to me, especially compared to the cbi. They are definitely brighter than the Philips ultinon, but still not enough light for me
I'm going to try a bit more driving in pitch black areas first before I swap them back out to cbi, so will add some more comments tomorrow
At this point I really think the cbi is still the best option for us in d3s. Osram have a cbh 6000k bulb, rated even higher than the cbi, crazy I know, but it's only available in d2s atm, hopefully they release it in d3s and help some fellow JLR folk out
This is (top to bottom) nightbreaker, cbi, cbh
if anyone has any tips let me know
so I put the Brex in tonight, colour is perfect, cut off has heaps of purple so driving you see street signs illuminate purple just like projector leds - in fact reversing out of my driveway the colour looked identical to the leds on my f80 m3
the bad news is the output just isn't good enough to me, especially compared to the cbi. They are definitely brighter than the Philips ultinon, but still not enough light for me
I'm going to try a bit more driving in pitch black areas first before I swap them back out to cbi, so will add some more comments tomorrow
At this point I really think the cbi is still the best option for us in d3s. Osram have a cbh 6000k bulb, rated even higher than the cbi, crazy I know, but it's only available in d2s atm, hopefully they release it in d3s and help some fellow JLR folk out
This is (top to bottom) nightbreaker, cbi, cbh
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#65
06-03-2017, 05:09 PM
Dom,
When you say "metal plug" and "tab", do you mean the metal connector which holds the wiring cable onto the base (igniter) of the bulb, at right angles to it?
Coz that makes sense to me as the only way to get the bulb out.
In the past on other cars with HIDs I've been able to "twist and pull" the bulb out without releasing the cable first, and then undo that clip and release the cable.
Regards the fuse box, yes I undid and removed both nuts, and lifted it off the mounting bolts, but the damn thing still wouldn't move more than a cm or so in any direction! Maybe the V8 set-up is different to the V6, but I doubt it.
When you say "metal plug" and "tab", do you mean the metal connector which holds the wiring cable onto the base (igniter) of the bulb, at right angles to it?
Coz that makes sense to me as the only way to get the bulb out.
In the past on other cars with HIDs I've been able to "twist and pull" the bulb out without releasing the cable first, and then undo that clip and release the cable.
Regards the fuse box, yes I undid and removed both nuts, and lifted it off the mounting bolts, but the damn thing still wouldn't move more than a cm or so in any direction! Maybe the V8 set-up is different to the V6, but I doubt it.
thanks,
danny
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06-03-2017, 05:28 PM
Sorry, I figured it out. Is there any alignment issues after this? It seems pretty plug and play.
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You may have some alignment issues, as I said before removing and replacing the bulbs makes the whole light socket wobble around a fair bit so in my case it was guess work and "by eye" to wobble it back to where I thought it was to start with. Afterwards I found that the LHS light was pointing a bit low so I adjusted it up using the adjuster. Up/down is the smaller adjuster socket, use a 6 mm long shank Allen key and turn it clockwise to raise the light, do just 1/2 a turn at a time then test.
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06-03-2017, 10:33 PM
You may have some alignment issues, as I said before removing and replacing the bulbs makes the whole light socket wobble around a fair bit so in my case it was guess work and "by eye" to wobble it back to where I thought it was to start with. Afterwards I found that the LHS light was pointing a bit low so I adjusted it up using the adjuster. Up/down is the smaller adjuster socket, use a 6 mm long shank Allen key and turn it clockwise to raise the light, do just 1/2 a turn at a time then test.
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Funny thing is though when I attempted to adjust them side to side, to see how much they might move, they didn't move at all (and I tried two full turns each way on both of the adjusters). My adaptive lighting is working perfectly, no change at all after changing the bulbs. Either I got lucky and managed to get them back in just the right spot side to side, or as you say they might have auto-corrected.
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You still have the Brex bulbs by chance?
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08-07-2018, 09:42 PM
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#73
10-23-2018, 08:28 AM
This is definitely true. Only by measuring the true lumen output can you determine the quality of the light. One must also take into account how wide the beam pattern is and how even it is.
This is also true, but the best LED headlamp will perform better than the best HID headlamps on the market. There are crappy implementations of the LED, such as the one found on the Audi R8 , Jaguar XF, Ducati. Good implementations include the new 911s and the new Honda Civic.
This is true, no aftermarket installation or bulb will perform as well as a true headlamp built for LED. It is not just about the bulb, but also about how the housing is constructed and the wattage used.
Your only hope for LED lighting is to get your hands on the headlamps from a new F-Type '18, which would be costly and looking at how Jaguar designed its LED headlamps for the XF and F-Pace I have huge doubt they will out perform our HIDs.
This is also true, but the best LED headlamp will perform better than the best HID headlamps on the market. There are crappy implementations of the LED, such as the one found on the Audi R8 , Jaguar XF, Ducati. Good implementations include the new 911s and the new Honda Civic.
This is true, no aftermarket installation or bulb will perform as well as a true headlamp built for LED. It is not just about the bulb, but also about how the housing is constructed and the wattage used.
Your only hope for LED lighting is to get your hands on the headlamps from a new F-Type '18, which would be costly and looking at how Jaguar designed its LED headlamps for the XF and F-Pace I have huge doubt they will out perform our HIDs.
Any idea how to retrofit them to 2016 Jaguar F type R?
Any programing and flashing required?
Or extra wiring?
#74
10-25-2018, 12:14 AM
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jaguar wouldn't have completely changed the can/wiring in the car for a facelift
as per other thread, i know the harness is different, so worse case you'll need to trace the wires and match them up. if you're lucky the wire colors are still same bw models, if not it's an easy job for an auto elec with a volt meter and some patience
#75
10-27-2018, 04:59 PM
Thanks again Dom!
My new CBI bulbs rolled up a couple of hours ago, and thanks to your help they are now in. Compared to stock they seem a lot whiter and brighter, although so far the only test has been one of each shining on my garage wall.
I didn't need any toothpicks, I just bent the cable connector locking clips open with my favourite ever trusty all-purpose universal MacGyver tool, AKA a thumbnail, then I pushed them off with a small screwdriver.
It took me a while to figure out that you don't twist the bulb/igniter itself, instead you twist the black plastic locking ring behind it using the two tabs on that ring.
The passenger side one was a bear to get at, I couldn't get the power steering fluid reservoir far enough out of the way to both see and feel what I was doing inside the back of the light housing. What worked for me in the end, to make enough room, was to loosen off the mounting bracket clamp on the PS reservoir and rotate it a bit so then I could jam it out the way.
In a couple of hours I will go for a test drive to check out the lights, and also to see if or how much readjusting (left/right up/down) they need, as pulling out and pushing back in the bulbs caused the housings to wobble all over the shop and who knows where they are now pointing!
My new CBI bulbs rolled up a couple of hours ago, and thanks to your help they are now in. Compared to stock they seem a lot whiter and brighter, although so far the only test has been one of each shining on my garage wall.
I didn't need any toothpicks, I just bent the cable connector locking clips open with my favourite ever trusty all-purpose universal MacGyver tool, AKA a thumbnail, then I pushed them off with a small screwdriver.
It took me a while to figure out that you don't twist the bulb/igniter itself, instead you twist the black plastic locking ring behind it using the two tabs on that ring.
The passenger side one was a bear to get at, I couldn't get the power steering fluid reservoir far enough out of the way to both see and feel what I was doing inside the back of the light housing. What worked for me in the end, to make enough room, was to loosen off the mounting bracket clamp on the PS reservoir and rotate it a bit so then I could jam it out the way.
In a couple of hours I will go for a test drive to check out the lights, and also to see if or how much readjusting (left/right up/down) they need, as pulling out and pushing back in the bulbs caused the housings to wobble all over the shop and who knows where they are now pointing!