Once you accept the electronic Oil Gauge is crap the world makes more sense. I would have the dealer check your fill level through the OBD port. Once you've established that you are not overfilled, then remain calm and carry on.

 

I'm not following this. Surely there is only 1 level sensor in the engine and both the gauge and OBD2 port get their data from that same single source?

 

Sounds reasonable, but when my Oil Gauge read overfilled using the protocol per the Owner's Manual, the Shop Foreman used his OBD Reader and it said 97% full.

 

It seems that there are a number of threads on this subject, which no one seems to understand, including me.
I posted recently that 8 months after the last servivce, when I've had continuous OK oil level, it read 'Overfill.' I haven't added any oil since the service. I removed a small amount of oil so it read 'OK.' The next day, without driving the car or even starting the engine, it read 'overfill' again.
I thought at first that maybe another fluid (fuel or coolant) was adding to the sump level. Nope. Coolant level is rock steady and there are no codes to suggest rich mixture or stuck injector. The car runs fine.
I have no idea. All measurements were taken on a level surface in my garage.
Maybe the CAN reset procedure resets the average, which is displayed in Vehicle Info and not the actual level? Whereas the dealer can access the actual level via the OBD port, hence the discrepancy?
I understand that the electronic oil level sensor also compensates for temperature, so as long as you wait at least 10 mins after shutdown, you can measure hot or cold.
If there's a veteran member reading this, I'd appreciate any words of wisdom on this subject.

 

… same issue here
… and I can’t seem to get that “live oil reading” to work on my MY2017 V6S AWD LHD…

Does someone perhaps have access to the 2017 V6S workshop manual… Perhaps the procedure has changed with the 2017+ models…?

 

It works on my 2018 so I don't think they ever changed the procedure.

However, one 'step' that is not included in that procedure is the hood/bonnet needs to be open or it won't work. They didn't include that step because there is an assumption the hood/bonnet would already be open because you are doing an oil/filter change.

 

What is all this talk about obd ports? Does this car not have a good ol' dipstick? Too many electronics... hard not to trust a dipstick. Even my 2018 Camaro SS 1LE has a dipstick. Lol

 

Some of the high end code readers/diagnostic devices and the JLR systems (SDD and Pathfinder), all of which connect via the OBD2 port, can read and report the engine oil level.
And no, the V6 and V8 F-Type engines do NOT have a dipstick so for 99% of punters it's the electronic dash read-out or nuffin, a decision by JLR which has attracted universal scorn and derision.

 

I finally learned (watched YouTube) how to get the oil level. Manual is very confusing, to me. And it didn't help Chris couldn't remember exactly how to get the "live" version. But once I got it figured out, and saw it was overfilled from an LOF last month, I called the dealer. They said come on by and they'd check it out. Chris said the only way to verify the overfilled-ness was to pump it all out. Dealers use a glass reservoir to see how much they're getting out and the condition of the oil. It's pretty bad after 10k miles, I understand. We are doing it at a 5k interval. Anyway, my car was at 4oz over, according to the shop foreman. He said an engine 1 quart too full will not even run right. The specs on V6 vs V8 are different and in the past, a tech has gotten the two mixed up.

 

Nup, the V6 and V8 take the exact same amount of oil, both 7.25 litres for the RWD versions and a bit less (6.5 litres IIRC) for the AWD versions.
Coz they have the same block and oil systems.
I see you have a 2016 R so an AWD, which means it is odds on that the dealer overfilled it by putting in the RWD amount of 7.25 litres, this is a very common problem which has been reported here many times.

 

The whole oil level issue is easier to understand if you realise that the information presented to you on the dash is an average (dynamic) reading, not an oil level (static) reading.

Around 3,000 oil level samples are taken per 100km when the engine is running, and the average figure is presented to you. That's why I had an 'oil overfill' reading 9 months after a service when no oil had been added. The average had gone up.

The static (dipstick) level is measured with the bonnet/hood open and pressing the CAN button twice. This is also the reading that a dealer will get via the OBD port.

You're welcome.

 

Best explanation I have seen on this subject. Thanks planet Ftype.

 

I check my oil more often via the dash readout, than I do on our other cars that use a dipstick.

 

That's interesting, but it doesn't explain why I can get a "full" reading when I park on level ground and after a 15 minute drive parking on a very slight incline downhill it reads "overfill". And then after another 2 mile drive it again reads "full" on level ground. I'd have thought if it's taking 30 samples per km the slight angle of the car shouldn't make much difference?

 

There is an evaluation algorithm in the control unit which compensates for the marginal influences of the engine (oil volume, oil temperature, engine speed) and of the vehicle (longitudinal and transverse acceleration, ascending and descending).

Obviously it's not perfect.

I just wish it was simple - like a dipstick.

 

I guess the cost of an algorithm and a load of sensors is cheaper than a hole in the block and a length of steel. And more reliable, too, obviously!

 

Planet_FType, when checking the oil using the static method, I assume that you have the gauge cluster display in the Vehicle Info Mode and have checked the Oil Level Option first so that the display is showing the virtual dipstick, and then you press CAN twice ?

After owning many vehicles that consumed a little oil during the break in period and even during the first 10,000 miles or more, I am a bit OCD about the oil level and want to keep a close eye on it for the first year or so.

 

The oil change procedure includes how to display the instant reading (note the hood should be open.) It also shows how to update the average reading to the current level.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ncfhyazedn...ng%29.pdf?dl=0

 

Excellent DJS, thanks for posting that. I have a Dropbox account so I was able to save that procedure on my desktop as a series of JPEG's.

 

Omg, that's crazy. Let's take yet another super simple, long standing idiot proof method of checking oil level (dip stick) and make it a complicated electronic process... lol I'm all for innovation, but at least keep a dipstick as a backup.