Hi all,

Located in Canada and was quoted $52,000 to replace pads and rotors on the F Type SVR with carbon ceramics. That is way too much for me to stomach, so I’d like to ask:
1. Am I able to swap to the steel “super performance” brakes?
2. are there any aftermarket brake options that will work on the CCBs? I looked around but I can only find ones for the steels.

Thank you!

 

I recall someone here posting about converting CCB to regular brakes, due to the ludicrous cost. Though even with the exchange rate, your quote seems extra ludicrous.

 

yep, I called around and was given almost the exact same price regardless of the dealership. I’m in Toronto. Really hoping to avoid paying 52k for brakes…

 

Sounds absurd. I've heard for $25k (US) for a complete rotor/pad replacement on some Ferrari's, and even for those there are alternatives.

First, do you really need rotors and pads? Unless the car has been doing a lot of track time, there's no way any SVR is old enough to need a full set.

If you really do need them, then figure out the exact size of the rotors (and pads) and look at alternate sources.

 

As posted above, unless you have been driving the SVR really hard on the track, it is unlikely that you need new rotors. The pads for CC themselves are available and quite expensive, but more like $1000-1500 per axle. The pads for ceramic brakes can be found online for around $1500 USD per axle.

Front Pads T2R11420

Rear Pads T2R11424

To verify that the rotors actually need to be replaced, the shop would need to weigh them unless there are visible cracks in the rotors. As carbon ceramic rotors wear out, they lose weight rather than thin out as traditional rotors do. It is common practice at dealers to replace pads and rotors even if the rotors are fine, which is what I suspect in your case. My guess is that you need new pads and they are just suggesting new rotors as well. You can probably find the minimum rotor weight online, and unless the dealer has weighed them to verify they are below the minimum weight, they are almost certainly in good shape. Even if you did replace the discs, these go for about $5,000 per disc USD, so the parts total would only be about $23,000 USD. Labor can be done by any competent independent shop for a small fee (hundreds of USD, not thousands). There is also no reason you could not convert entirely to the Super Performance brakes if you secure all of the necessary parts. Good luck, and don't pay 50k for brakes!

 

Thanks for the input everyone. Yes I was told by dealers that they will only replace rotors and pads together, and I can’t simply only replace pads. I’ll call up a few independent shops in this case…

 

That's BS. I bought pads on RockAuto, you should be able to find my post. Rotors should be good for over 100000 miles.

 

Get p b brakes kit front and rearThey are superb

 

I think they gave you next year's price by mistake [after the inflation thing cools down]. This year it's still $1500.

 

I'm in the Toronto area. Glad to assist with cost effective solution...DM if interested

 

FYI, the OP needs 5 or 10 posts before he can PM.

 

That is nuts! I live in Edmonton and only one dealer here and when I explored the options for the SVR I now have I said "no sir' to the ceramic brakes for that exact reason. Best of luck for sure but changing to non ceramic will be a lot cheaper in the long run.

 

Rock Auto used to have brake pads for the CCM brakes at a small fraction of the OEM price but they now appear to have the rears only (one set left, Centric).
See here: https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...brake+pad,1684 then scroll down to Centric 10417640.
So it appears that Centric make or at least made brake pads for the CCM brakes.
It is SOP for JLR dealerships to say that the rotors should also be renewed every time the pads are replaced, this is BS for steel brakes and double BS for the CCM brakes.

 

Nuts on the prices as above.
1. Castrol SRF.
2. Good indy: here it is 200/axle for pads/rotors/flush.
3. Bring my own parts....done.

People overthink this stuff...unless you track, iron is fine and we have massive brakes on all of our cars. Fluid matters....wet boiling point to me is the key number. Hence SRF.

Best.


Jeff


PS: I went under the car and looked at the airflow to the fronts - the plastic air ducts Jaguar put on are about the same as a 996 GT3 and perhaps almost a gt2...they are pretty impressive. I really don't think on the street you benefit from ceramics...so if you don't do at least 10 track days a year in your SVR, I'd just go steel and be done with it.

 

Might be worth driving across the bridge to Rochester??

 

That's nonsense, especially with Carbon Ceramics.

Just buy the pads you need (make sure you really need all 4) and have someone else put them on.

 

That is as already stated-insane. That is pretty much what I paid for my 2016 R with 11,000 miles 2 years ago. I don't have the ceramic brakes but for that price I got an entire car

 

Replacement costs are precisely why I excluded the CC brake option on my R. I never intended to track my car and found the option excessive. Good luck hitting them sorted out with other parts or replacing the CC models with traditional pads & rotors.

 

That's the whole catch with CC brakes. On the street, you really don't need them. On the track, you get the performance advantage, but the running costs are absurd, so most people don't want them. Which means, in the real world, there's no reason to ever have them.

 

Apart from looks and lack of dust.