Lots of good points made here. Yep, F-Types and modern Jags in general (except that 2l ingenium diesel) are really solid cars but most people, including a lot of car guys, don't know it and think they are super expensive to run. Sure, the build quality of some body details aren't quite on par with German standards but when it comes to reliability there's not much to talk about. How good and reliable they are feels like one of the better kept secrets in the car enthusiast world. I think that's one of the reasons to why the F-Type gives you such an incredible bang for the buck compared to e.g. Porsches. Too much fear about Jags and too many guys blindly buying 911s without researching options.

Sports car or not has also been debated at length. Depends on what you mean by sports car. By American standards it's probably fair to call it a sports car and Jaguar obviously marketed it as a sports car but by European standards it's somewhere in between a GT like an XK and a sports car like a Cayman. I personally think it strikes an excellent balance between the two. The P300 is arguably closer to a "sports car" although it's too soft and heavy for a sports car, the V8 is rather closer to a muscle car GT but is too small and exciting for a full on GT while the V6 is somewhere inbetween.

For an alternative view on the P300, check out JayEmm's review. He's clearly V8 biased and has some opinions I don't agree with but he knows his F-Types and has a lot of other F-Type test drives posted too.


At the end of the day they are all great cars with very different characters depending on the engine so as said the best is to drive some to figure out which one best corresponds to what you expect from an F-Type and excites you most.

 

Checking out the video now. Thank you. So much great information on these cars.

Is there a sweet(er) spot in terms of a used P300 or V6 in terms of mileage? I will be in the $25-$30k price range for 2018+. When car dealerships offer a 5 year or 60k warranty, sometimes, that can be telling of when to expect maintenance items to pop up. In other words, is 40,000 miles a decent place to start? I drive 15,000 miles per year and this will be my daily.

 

The only time I've seen him review a car that was covered in road dirt and grime; then he bashes its engine as somehow inappropriate, largely ignoring or dissing the P300's real capabilities and virtues.

But soon after, he reviewed a similarly sporty GT that had less grunt, less panache, yet he gave it more praise. Just prejudice, IMO.

As for OP's concern about maintenance costs:

My F-Type got its 6-year annual service this year, the first since its factory+CPO warranty expired. It cost me about $150 in total for premium Liqui-Moly oil, oil filter, cabin air filter, all changed in a DIY job I did in about one hour, maybe less, using the MityVac extractor.

 

It’s just an opinion. Just like you have an opinion. Just like I have an opinion. They’re all valid.

As I’ve stated above, and others on here agree to, I don’t think that engine belongs in this car either. That said, I respect that others might not agree with me.

At the end of the day the OP needs to make his own decision. Different valid perspectives help, but nobody can answer what he’s looking for at the end of the day. I’m a big believer in buying what rings your own bell, not the bells of others.

I personally think that, more often than not, it comes down to cost and budgets. This is what drive one’s interest more than anything else. I really think that most people will choose the v6/v8 in a car like this if they can afford it…i.e: If money was no object…Why? Because I know how the mind of the average car enthusiast works…lol

The reality is, money matters though…

To the OP —>

I will say this…If you are constrained on budget at all definitely make sure you look at the cost of insurance. I can’t speak about the region in which you live, but where I live the cost of insurance on my 2024 R ended up being shockingly high. I am a 50 year old man with a perfect driving record too. I got a quote 4 months before closing on the car. It was at what I thought was a reasonable level. Similar to a 911 or C8 Corvette.

Then something happened by the time I committed to the car where the premium literally doubled overnight. It’s crazy expensive, I’m literally paying double of what it would cost me for insurance on a well equipped 911. That is crazy to me, and probably the only aspect of F-type ownership that is a bit disappointing and annoying. I love the car so much that I can’t say I regret it, but nobody likes to overpay on insurance.

Anyway, I just thought I would mention this, because it is a good amount of money just in insurance for me. Perhaps this is where a P300 might really shine in comparison? I don’t know for sure, but definitely something to consider if you are on any kind of a budget.

 

Have you tried putting it on Classic/exotic insurance? My '23 costs ~1100/usd annual with Hagerty vs. $3,500 with my primary insurance (AllState.)

 

I did contact Hagerty and they said they wouldn’t take me on until I’ve had the car for 3 years. That is their criteria for where I live anyway, and despite my being the age I am with a clear driving record.

Kinda seems silly to me. Makes me feel younger again ;-0. It is the weirdest thing, I got the impression it was due to the power of the car, and the fact I’ve never been insured on a car like this or something. Did I mention I’m 50 ish? ;-0

Hagerty is my best hope moving forward. I shopped around too. My current insurance, which is insane, looked cheap compared to other prices I was getting. It was as if nobody really wanted to insure the car if ya ask me.

 

Don't listen to us old folks on cylinder counts I have not driven the 4-banger, nor have any desire to. That is not that is anything wrong with it, I suspect, as myself, members here are looking for a different dynamic and sensory experience that is not offered at the specs you are looking for. If this was going to be my daily commuter, I would certainly of at least taken the 2.0 around the block.

I haven't seen much on the maintenance and repair costs mentioned. As mentioned by all, they are not unreliable cars. Check and make sure there are a few indy shops in your area that would be interested in taking on the task of making repairs that are above your skillset. Good luck!

 

I hear you. Hagerty quoted me $723 the day I negotiated the car, and then requoted ~50% after I paid for 12 months and wired funds to the seller. Maybe because I am only 47, no tickets, accidents or claims in 20 years that they gave me the privilege of paying twice

 

;-0

In the end it’s not that bad in that my car is only actually on the road 6 months a year, so for that 6 months off-road it’s cheap…Just fire and theft…If I were to have it on the road 365 days a year it would be approx 3500 CND per year by memory, which is just a little over 2500 USD. I also have to pay some 500 dollar a year additional charge because I refuse to install some security solution in the car that will etch the side glass with some ugly security product brand ;-o So, better than I guess you would have paid for your regular insurance, but relative to the 1400 CND per year I was quoted a few months before getting the car, well, it’s not good ;-0

In central Canada the car theft problem, although improving, is still pretty bad. Range Rovers in particular are a huge target. I think they just lumped the F-type under the JLR banner and jacked the rates across the board.

This coming May I will have had the car for 2 years, so I can see what Hagerty will do not too long from now. I have a feeling there won’t be much savings, as I don’t believe they would be reducing the cost during the 6 month period where the car is not on the road. Quite certain I remember reading that you pay their flat rate for the year regardless. We’ll see I guess.

 

I know here in the US you get discounts for security measures but the GPS tracker (with InControl) on the F-Type is almost always the top-tier theft-deterrent addition for the biggest percentage discount. Window etching is the least effective and therefore the least amount of discount. I would hope your insurance company understands the value of a GPS tracker.

 

The product is some form of gps tracking, but the install requires really large ish ugly etching in the windows too to advertise the product is installed…No thanks lol

And they won’t recognize an option I might choose, it has to be that…

 

I bought my 2017 V-6 in 2020 and originally had it on our bundled Home/Auto policy. We also have a 2018 LT2 corvette. Abput two years ago, I asked our ins. agent (who reps many companies) what Hagerty could do for those two cars. I have had my 69 E type with Hagerty for over 30 years. We were able to use "agreed value" for both the F and the Corvette ( as opposed to book value, which could kill the car if major damage occurred), the coverage is better and premiums less. No, these aren't daily drivers, but not garage kings, either.

As for the OPs question on mileage for a V6... Mine had come off a lease with just about 24,000 miles on it. I hoped that most of the major issues that plague new models would have been rectified, or at least noted in a TSB and covered. The car still had 18 months of factory warranty left as well. The one thing I didn't pick up on from extensive stalking of the F board before purchase was the clutch issue. However, the selling dealer had replaced it already with the correct 4th G unit.
Make sure the center vent unit raises and lowers quietly. Some of the early cars had 'sticky button syndrome'.. possibly curable with denatured alcohol. Also check the condition of the headlight lenses. There are threads here on all that. I was fortunate to have local JLR dealer replace them. Buying used ones is a crap shoot because those could be bad, too.
One of the best things about maintaining an F is that you can change the oil right from the engine compartment... Mighty Vac extractor, and the filter is right there, too.

have fun looking!

 

I bought my P300 for four years ago, slightly used. To me it’s a hobby car, and a daily driver in the spring, summer and fall. I really enjoy the car!
I did get rid of the stock Pirelli tires, and replaced the exhaust (cat-back) with one that sounds better and looks better. It will pop and crackle, if that is what you want, but that’s not my style. But, when I start the car in the garage, it shakes the house until the idle settles down. Ha!
Having lived during the oil embargoes of the 1970s, it made a lasting impression on me. I appreciate that this car gets 40 miles/gallon (on premium) if you go easy, but it flies if you want it to. The steering is lovely - light and nimble. If you want more throttle response, just put the transmission in S. I’ve had it up to 100 mph and it was steady and confident.
The testers say it does 0-60 in under 6 seconds and 155 top speed. Geez, how much faster do you need to go?
Once I got a new battery, and the power lift gate fixed (under warranty) and stuck down the damn window trim, it’s been trouble-free.
I also enjoy that the F-Type is so beautiful. Like rolling art. I never fails to attract compliments and attention wherever I go.

 

Sound incredible!!! Thank you for the info. Curious what kind of exhaust you added? I heard the raganazz is a top 3 exhaust for this car at around a $2k cost.

 

0-60 in 3.4 seconds in mine blows my hair back (what little I have left) but the only time I'll see the top speed of 200 is if I drive it off a cliff in the Sierras

 

In my opinion the V6 is where all the fun is at its super loud especially the 2014-2016 models it and it has more than enough horsepower. If you want muscle car fun then definitely get the V8 its super loud and has way too much horsepower. Ive driven a I4 XE before its has a nice punch but in my opinion I would be wanting more. So to me the V6 is the best I also like the center exhaust and the exhaust sound is the best.

 

Owner of a 2024, 300P.

Good car as a daily drive GT. Compare with the V6 and V8, it's more reliable and low cost in long term ownership.

It has a little turbo lag on the track but more nimble in the corner. Gernerally don't expect this one will be like a 718 or Emira, FT is not a track day car anyway. 300P L4 engine has much less sound vs. the V6 and V8, especially for my new 300P, it has a GPF in the Downpipe, but for the 2018 one, it should be better.

One thing I like about Ftype is the spacy inside, I tried several different other 2 seats sport car, FT is the best as a daily driving car.

 

You need to understand the difference between "need" and "want".

 

𝗙𝘂𝗻𝗻𝘆 𝘀𝘁𝗼𝗿𝘆. 𝗜 𝘄𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗱𝗿𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗮 𝗽𝟯𝟬𝟬 (𝗮𝘁 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁'𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗜 𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗴𝗵𝘁 𝗶𝘁 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗱𝗲𝘁𝗮𝗶𝗹&#120320. 𝗜 𝘁𝘂𝗿𝗻𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗮𝗿 𝗼𝗻 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱𝗻'𝗴 𝗯𝗲𝗹𝗶𝗲𝘃𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗱𝗶𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗱. 𝗦𝘁𝗮𝗿𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗱𝗿𝗶𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗶𝘁 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗴𝗵𝘁, "𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗽𝟯𝟬𝟬 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗼𝘄𝗲𝗿 𝗜 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱. 𝗜 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗸 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝘂𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗰𝗮𝗿. 𝗧𝗵𝗲𝗻, 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝗮𝗹𝗲𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗼𝗻 𝘀𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗻𝗲𝘅𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗺𝗲 𝗮𝗳𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗜 𝘀𝗮𝗶𝗱 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝘄𝗼𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗿𝗳𝘂𝗹 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗼𝘄𝗲𝗿 𝘄𝗮𝘀, "𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁'𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗴𝗲𝘁 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗩-𝟲."

"𝗛𝘂𝗵, 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗶𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗩-𝟲?!?"

𝗜 𝗹𝗶𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗱𝗿𝗼𝘃𝗲 𝗮𝗻 𝗵𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗱𝗿𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗰𝗮𝗿 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗰𝗵 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝗲𝗹 𝗶𝘁 𝘄𝗮𝘀. 𝗦𝗵𝗶𝘁. 𝗡𝗼𝘄 𝗜 𝘄𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗩-𝟲 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

𝗜 𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝘄𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝗮𝘁 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝘀𝘁 𝘁𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗱𝗿𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝘂𝗮𝗹 𝗣𝟯𝟬𝟬 𝗯𝗲𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗱𝗲𝗰𝗶𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗵𝗶𝗰𝗵 𝗰𝗮𝗿 𝗶𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝘀𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗺𝗲. 𝗧𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗱 𝗶𝘀 𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗱𝗶𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗶𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗩-𝟲!

 

𝗧𝗵𝗮𝗻𝗸𝘀 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗶𝗻𝗳𝗼. 𝗜 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗔𝗹𝗹-𝗦𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗾𝘂𝗼𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗺𝗲 $𝟯𝗸 𝗽𝗲𝗿 𝘆𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝗼𝗻 𝗮 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟭 𝗙-𝘀𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝗽𝟯𝟬𝟬. 𝗛𝗼𝗹𝘆 𝗺𝗼𝗹𝘆. 𝗕𝗶𝗴 𝗷𝘂𝗺𝗽 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 $𝟭,𝟮𝟬𝟬/𝘆𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗺𝘆 𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗖𝗔𝗺𝗿𝘆.