Hi everyone,
I have a 2018 v6 f-type and it already looks like it needs new tires after about 1 year. Is that common? What tires do you all recommend as the best performance tire for this car?
Thanks very much!
Nick

 

 

Thanks very much for your quick reply. Yes, I have the Pirellis and have about 6k on the car. Really appreciate your suggestion!
Nick

 

Check Costco; otherwise, Tire Rack.

 

What about the Nitto Motivos? Does anyone have any experience with those? I've had Nittos on other vehicles and I thought they were great. Had them on my 3.0i Z4 when I would autocross and I would eat up z4m's all day long at those events.

 

On another marque forum that I frequent, the Nittos have a good rep. Of course, tire performance depends somewhat on the weight of the vehicle...tires are SO vehicle-specific these days. Just look at the variety of P-Zeros that are offered!




Don't let this go to your head, but I bet your skill as a driver has more to do with your Z4 success than the tires!

 

Your location says California, what type of weather do you see? All Seasons are generally ok in all weather seasons but great in none. If your location is correct, you don't really need all season tires likely.

What size wheels are on the car?

I'm currenting using Kumho v720's and I have 19's:

ECSTA V720 - ULTRA HIGH PERFORMANCE / SUMMER ULTRA HIGH PERFORMANCE | BETTER ALWAYS KUMHO TIRE USA

I'm not a fan of Michelin tires. They make a square tire which visually is not appealing unless you have a larger wheel (with less tire wall). They make good tires no doubt, I just wish they had a more visually appealing tire. That being said, your original statement you seem to be not happy with the tire life of the OEM tires. If that's the case, take a look at the "UTQG" rating on the tires you are looking at. The OEM tires are rated at UTQG 220. Anything around that or lower will wear similar to what you already had... Just keep in mind that the UTQG rating isn't universal (i.e. one manufacturers rating of 200 may be similar to another at 220) but it's a good indication of tire life overall. In short, if you want something that will last longer, look at a tire with a higher UTQG rating. Just keep in mind that typically higher UTQG means lower performance. It's a trade off in most cases.

 

 

Well, that depends on how you drive. If all of those were easy miles I'd check alignment.

Michelin Pilot 4S has no equals, anything else is a pale imitation and a waste of money.

 

 

Surprisingly (or not), I've found that highway cruzin' with handling-oriented alignment settings (AKA, ample negative camber and toe-in at the rear) will wear out tires quickly.

So, yes, perhaps a GOOD alignment shop can adjust the suspension WITHIN SPECS to minimize this wear at your request. You need to tell 'em your concerns when you bring it in. I use a local Porsche-racing shop for my suspension needs...unfortunately, Jag suspensions don't seem to allow corner-weighting and ride height adjustments.

 

As compared to what specifically?

 

 

That's a bold statement. What data do you have to support those statements?

 

Based on quantitative wear rating (a good indicator if not perfect)
Based on independent performance testing (Ca&Driver, Consumer Reports, most folks on this forum,...)

 

I can confirm. Obviously, dedicated track tire would outperform, but it isn't feasible to daily drive car with such. MP4S are very close in performance to track-only tires AND could be daily driven. Makes swapping tires for lap days unnecessary, unless you are going for setting a record (then you probably want something else other than F-type).

 

You have NO data that supports the MP4S beats every tire that is not a competition tire. It doesn't exist. Yes, the MP4S has been compared to many tires around the 300 tread rating, but as I mentioned before that is a relative and self suggested number (i.e. it wouldn't be the first time Michelin provided optimistic tread ratings and then later changed them). Saying it beats anything over a 200 tread rating is just plain false without supporting data. Tests have shown it's a better "overall" tire than some of its competitors with similar specs but it does fall behind in the wet compared to a few:

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...ce-data-page-2

With that, I'm not saying the MP4S isn't a great tire. It is. However, let's not make up information to convince others.

 

It is gratifying to know that I don't have a monopoly on hyperbole. What I presented certainly represents data, but clearly not as much as you would like.

 

Show the data comparing all of the 200 treadwear tires? I'm happy to concede if it exists. I've looked at a lot of tire data for most tires and I've never seen this data you speak of.. I'd be happy to learn new places for this type of data.

 

Not certain where you are going with this. I was merely pointing out that most tires (if not all) in the Ultra High Performance category had a lower wear rating than the Michelin's 300.