Who brought the v8 just because of the sound?
#242
First time I tried, I didn't have much sound. Not sure if it matters, but I didn't switch on dynamic until after I put it into drive, then sport, then dynamic.
Tried again this morning after the gym, and while the car was still in park, I switched on dynamic, then once in drive sport, and it definitely woke people up (I go to the gym at 3:00am!). However, I agree with Larry above, that I needed a little more mphs than 10mph (more like 15-20mph) to get the effect.
Tried again this morning after the gym, and while the car was still in park, I switched on dynamic, then once in drive sport, and it definitely woke people up (I go to the gym at 3:00am!). However, I agree with Larry above, that I needed a little more mphs than 10mph (more like 15-20mph) to get the effect.
In either case, the only way to do it now is with a very heavy right foot on the throttle followed by sudden lift off.
#243
It's interesting to hear the differing reports of when overrun occurs. Perceptions are all over the map.
I get significant overrun during deceleration in all modes, including "granny mode" in my base V6 w/ standard sport exhaust (no valves). It is more prominent in Sport and Dynamic, and I don't any difference between those two.
It's also loud all the time whenever I put my foot in it.
I get significant overrun during deceleration in all modes, including "granny mode" in my base V6 w/ standard sport exhaust (no valves). It is more prominent in Sport and Dynamic, and I don't any difference between those two.
It's also loud all the time whenever I put my foot in it.
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Schwabe (03-09-2016)
#244
I am with Foosh, of course in a vert it is a lot more obvious. Just the soft top up and it reduces the "experienced" noise by a ton. I have backfire when ever I lift of the throttle, no matter what mode or speed. I can additionally induce backfire by just lightly touching the throttle when the car is being slowed down by the transmission only, basically can hold it until the car shifts automatically down before stalling.
As for not having the TRB applied ... you guys are joking right? My car, my decision. I don't have to service the car at a Jag dealership at all. I pay for my service, you do what I tell you to do. WTF is Jag to tell me what I get done on my car and what not. Are they making the payments? Seriously ... the youngens these days, go home and look under your bed, maybe you find your ***** ...
As for not having the TRB applied ... you guys are joking right? My car, my decision. I don't have to service the car at a Jag dealership at all. I pay for my service, you do what I tell you to do. WTF is Jag to tell me what I get done on my car and what not. Are they making the payments? Seriously ... the youngens these days, go home and look under your bed, maybe you find your ***** ...
#245
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Originally Posted by Tel View Post
Is the K309 a result of the engineered pops and bangs shortening the life of the O2 sensors?
No. Have a read of my earlier post Who brought the v8 just because of the sound?
Originally Posted by Tel View Post
Is the K309 a result of the engineered pops and bangs shortening the life of the O2 sensors?
No. Have a read of my earlier post Who brought the v8 just because of the sound?
Looking forward to taking mine in for its' first service...I think!
Your 'insider' information from your latest post looks most plausible.
#246
Well that was a frustrating call with the dealer. Completely dismissed me out of hand, said there is nothing wrong with my car, there is no problem to solve, there is nothing that needs resetting and unless JLR tells them to do anything further with the car they won't entertain performing work of any description on it - and I should basically stop listening to what anyone on the Internet says because they don't know better than Jaguar. Incredibly bad attitude - basically told me to go away.
#247
I am with Foosh, of course in a vert it is a lot more obvious. Just the soft top up and it reduces the "experienced" noise by a ton. I have backfire when ever I lift of the throttle, no matter what mode or speed. I can additionally induce backfire by just lightly touching the throttle when the car is being slowed down by the transmission only, basically can hold it until the car shifts automatically down before stalling.
As for not having the TRB applied ... you guys are joking right? My car, my decision. I don't have to service the car at a Jag dealership at all. I pay for my service, you do what I tell you to do. WTF is Jag to tell me what I get done on my car and what not. Are they making the payments? Seriously ... the youngens these days, go home and look under your bed, maybe you find your ***** ...
As for not having the TRB applied ... you guys are joking right? My car, my decision. I don't have to service the car at a Jag dealership at all. I pay for my service, you do what I tell you to do. WTF is Jag to tell me what I get done on my car and what not. Are they making the payments? Seriously ... the youngens these days, go home and look under your bed, maybe you find your ***** ...
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Schwabe (03-09-2016)
#248
I am with Foosh, of course in a vert it is a lot more obvious. Just the soft top up and it reduces the "experienced" noise by a ton. I have backfire when ever I lift of the throttle, no matter what mode or speed. I can additionally induce backfire by just lightly touching the throttle when the car is being slowed down by the transmission only, basically can hold it until the car shifts automatically down before stalling.
As for not having the TRB applied ... you guys are joking right? My car, my decision. I don't have to service the car at a Jag dealership at all. I pay for my service, you do what I tell you to do. WTF is Jag to tell me what I get done on my car and what not. Are they making the payments? Seriously ... the youngens these days, go home and look under your bed, maybe you find your ***** ...
As for not having the TRB applied ... you guys are joking right? My car, my decision. I don't have to service the car at a Jag dealership at all. I pay for my service, you do what I tell you to do. WTF is Jag to tell me what I get done on my car and what not. Are they making the payments? Seriously ... the youngens these days, go home and look under your bed, maybe you find your ***** ...
Also, I have a suggestion for where you can stick your ageism. Would you like to hear it?
#249
Thanks Kief - sport mode is almost entirely devoid of overrun effects for me now no matter what speed. Interestingly its much easier to get some (very limited) overrun in just dynamic mode without sport engaged.
In either case, the only way to do it now is with a very heavy right foot on the throttle followed by sudden lift off.
In either case, the only way to do it now is with a very heavy right foot on the throttle followed by sudden lift off.
As for not having the TRB applied ... you guys are joking right? My car, my decision. I don't have to service the car at a Jag dealership at all. I pay for my service, you do what I tell you to do. WTF is Jag to tell me what I get done on my car and what not. Are they making the payments? Seriously ... the youngens these days, go home and look under your bed, maybe you find your ***** ...
I haven't paid for service and/or been out of warranty for quite some time with my cars.
#250
Well that was a frustrating call with the dealer. Completely dismissed me out of hand, said there is nothing wrong with my car, there is no problem to solve, there is nothing that needs resetting and unless JLR tells them to do anything further with the car they won't entertain performing work of any description on it - and I should basically stop listening to what anyone on the Internet says because they don't know better than Jaguar. Incredibly bad attitude - basically told me to go away.
#251
#252
Maybe find another dealer and discuss the problem. Clearing the codes and resetting the ECU is quite a benign operation - hard to think of a valid objection since it can't cause a problem in and of itself. Perhaps offer to pay (can't be more than 30mins labor) - maybe if it fixes the problem you could be reimbursed etc?
#253
I pointed out to him I was merely asking for a reset of the ECU - likened it to him doing a reboot of Windows - I did offer to pay. That's where he got very offhand with me and said he wouldn't do anything to the car as there is nothing wrong with it, nothing that needs to be reset and anyway he can't do anything to the car without Jaguar's permission
I guess you can still try unhooking the battery for an hour and see if that has any effect at all.
#254
To be honest I had expected the dealer to take this line - they really don't like people telling them how to do their job, and seldom will go the extra mile to investigate beyond what the "playbook" tells them. Its all too easy for them to try and get rid of people with complaints by stating "nothing wrong with the car" for these kinds of issues. If the car is broken down / stopped working / has an obvious error light its a simple conversation to have. When having a conversations about "the car doesn't sound right" its usually going to end up with you getting nowhere fast.
#255
I pointed out to him I was merely asking for a reset of the ECU - likened it to him doing a reboot of Windows - I did offer to pay. That's where he got very offhand with me and said he wouldn't do anything to the car as there is nothing wrong with it, nothing that needs to be reset and anyway he can't do anything to the car without Jaguar's permission
Who were you dealing w/ a the dealer? If it was a "service advisor" elevate to the "service manager." If it was the latter, elevate to the dealership "general manager." If he/she balks, tell him all your future sales and service business will be going elsewhere.
Have these discussions in person, and make sure you are incredibly polite with a smile on your face in all discussions.
Armed w/ the write-up that Cambo published here, I am sure you can find a dealership that is willing to do that procedure for you. You aren't asking very much, and it is an approved procedure.
I am certain my dealership would do it without hesitation.
Last edited by Foosh; 03-09-2016 at 01:44 PM.
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Who were you dealing w/ a the dealer? If it was a "service advisor" elevate to the "service manager." If it was the latter, elevate to the dealership "general manager." If he/she balks, tell him all your future sales and service business will be going elsewhere.
Have these discussions in person, and make sure you are incredibly polite with a smile on your face in all discussions.
Armed w/ the write-up that Cambo published here, I am sure you can find a dealership that is willing to do that procedure for you. You aren't asking very much, and it is an approved procedure.
I am certain my dealership would do it without hesitation.
Have these discussions in person, and make sure you are incredibly polite with a smile on your face in all discussions.
Armed w/ the write-up that Cambo published here, I am sure you can find a dealership that is willing to do that procedure for you. You aren't asking very much, and it is an approved procedure.
I am certain my dealership would do it without hesitation.
They have a strange setup - their service facility is nowhere near the sales facility in White Plains. It is a shared Volvo / Subaru / Jaguar facility - its a pretty low rent facility with a central receptionist - she guides you to an office for Jaguar (and by office I mean a desk with a chair) or to one of the other marques. The guy sitting in the office is the only representative for Jag servicing and his card says "Service Consultant".
Having not bought the car from the dealer, I have no relationship with the sales team or GM, just the service guy in the service facility location.
#259
I also own a Range Rover and have a good relationship with the dealer - I can ask them if they would be willing - although not sure if they would agree as its another marque, even if it is part of the same family. Its just a Land Rover dealer, not a combined Jag / Land Rover.
#260
Originally Posted by ek993
I also own a Range Rover and have a good relationship with the dealer - I can ask them if they would be willing - although not sure if they would agree as its another marque, even if it is part of the same family. Its just a Land Rover dealer, not a combined Jag / Land Rover.