Curious. I know 1st oil change is approx 16K. I'm at about 6K on a 2019.
This isn't an amber or red alert, there's no engine icon. No letters in red, bold, etc.

I turn on the car, and it says "Your cars needs to be serviced in XXXX miles", faint white lettering, easy to miss, on the center instrument cluster.
It started in thousands, then counted down consistently to 100s, 75, 50, etc to 0.
The message would display, innocuously and quickly, such that I missed it at 50% of startups.
After it got to 0, it hasn't reappeared, to my knowledge.

This isn't your typical service warning, engine warning, etc.
I remember the "real" service alerts, and unless they designed them to be almost invisible on the 2019 vs 2016,
I am sort of confused what that might be, 10K before I need service.

Anyone seen this behavior?

 

In my opinion you are past-due on the first oil change.

 

The same thing happened to me. The dealer 'sort' of explained it - Oil change is at 16k miles or one year. It averages the miles done over the past x months and starts to warn you that in x miles you will need an oil change. My first year mileage was 4k, so the indicator started letting me know at about 1000 miles, 6 weeks before a year was up - which doesn't calculate with the dealer explanation.

My 2017 has just done this yesterday (its going back from the lease) saying that I need an oil change in 1000 miles, which makes no sense as I have only done less than 4K this year.

The behavior leads me to believe the truth is that its based on an average car driving yearly mileage and it simply divides that by 12 to let you know the oil service is due in about a month.

My 'new' 2017 with 10k miles on it just had its first oil change after nearly 3 years and it was clean as a whistle - and free.

 

Hey Fishbits, it just recently happened to me. I was planning to have my 'annual' service done, usually late January, but nowhere near a 10k mile interval. So I was surprised when that happened to me. I presumed the computer was 'estimating' a years worth of mileage, then advising me that service was needed. I have it scheduled, and will ask the service adviser to interpret.

FWIW, a recent forum posting abt the FT engines suffering from sludge in the timing chain guides advised more frequent oil changes. The early XK's were known for that problem, I had my XK proactively repaired with no problems. THAT might suggest an oil change before 16k miles -- which I was surprised to read in your post.

Lovely beasts these! How do you like / compare your new one to the one you turned in? Are you heading up the 2020 NorCal F(un) run?

 

I knowing now wouldnt let the car get to 10k never mind 16k miles service more like 3k miles then change oil and filter to avoid any potential problems with this engine

 

That 1000-mile msg came up for us too last fall. It 'counted down' to coincide with the 1 year anniversary of the last reset.

I assume that the car has a calendar as well as an odometer for oil changes.

 

Damn..I don’t care how good the oil is, I would do the first oil change no later than 3000 miles. Also, no one recommends running oil more than one calendar year, regardless of low mileage. Ignore the service messages and change annually. Just remember to reset the warning system after every oil change so that it doesn’t continually annoy you on startup.

 

On this subject, at my last service, they forgot to remove the "service required" message. I'm trying to remove it, following the steps in the manual, but so far it's not working.

1- turn on ignition without starting the car
2- open the hood
3- open the driver's door

I'm supposed to get a "remove service required" message, but I don't.

Any insight? What am I doing wrong?

 

This worked for me:

Turn on the ignition
Open the bonnet and driver's door
Press the brake pedal and accelerator fully for 10 seconds
Turn off the ignition
Close the bonnet
Turn on the ignition
Service indicator should be reset

 

Thanks
Did you ever get a message like "service required reset" or similar?
And did you open the hood/bonnet completely or just unlatch it?

 

I just pulled the hood/bonnet release lever. No messages that I recall, though it was some time ago so my memory may be unreliable. I think I just waited for a generous 10 seconds with my feet on the pedals and then followed the rest of the procedure.

Edit: just reread your message and wondered if you meant a "service required" message, or one when it was resetting. My comment above refers to the latter message. Interestingly, my independent mechanic said he did do an official service reset but that didn't remove the message for me.

 

Under warranty, I assume you can't just waltz into the dealer and say "yeah, instead of 16K, you're going to do this at your cost 5x more often". lol So I would be changing this on my own dime.... and I am totally fine with that, but then it would muck up their service data and warnings, anyway, right?

Companies don't want their engines to fail. Why would they suggest 16K for a change, annually, then? I do admit, it was 16K in my 2016, and it's obvious the computer is doing new math since then and figuring an annual average of miles driven so it's more frequent. That's interesting.

And, for example, my warning is now "car needs service" which irks me, because my dealer can't get me in for service until the 28th of January, and this is my daily driver. Is that "right"?? I am sure it's okay, and the new calculation of when you need oil service builds in a significant buffer, one must assume?

But my '95 Wrangler needs 3K servicing. Why would a modern car like this need it as well? Congenially curious and asking from ignorance. =)

 

The 4L straight six in the Wrangler of that era was designed back in the 1960's. Probably had much 'looser' tolerances and 'slipper' cam followers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_straight-6_engine



The primary reasoning behind annual oil changes is that acidic contaminants build up in the engine oil due to short trips, so they must be reduced by replacing the oil.

If you used your Jaguar as a high-mileage Daily Driver, the 16K interval is fine, given the high quality of today's recommended synthetic oil and the ample size of our engine's oil sump. (I'm talking 6 & 8 cylinders...what is the oil capacity of the 4 cylinder?)

PS: Don't fret about being 2 weeks overdue on ONE oil change...but next year, young man, make the service appt. as soon as the 'countdown' begins. <---Fatherly Advice, LOL

 

No ego here, so any advice is always well taken. =)

 

Companies don't care if your engine fails out of warranty. They also want to show lower lifetime emissions numbers and one way to do it is to push oil change intervals to the absolute maximum your engine could handle and still make it out of warranty.

My understanding that you are long-term into your F-type ownership. Stop trying to save couple hundred dollars today, your future self that won't have to pay for engine rebuild will thank you many times for this. Go change your engine oil today.

 

I last had my oil changed in March of '19 and have only driven the car about 1000 miles since. Got a 'Service Required in 1000mi' back in November. Forget whether it reminded me again when I drove it this past weekend, but either way it seems to be on an annual timing schedule.

 

Direct Injected (DI) engines put extra stress on oil while variable timing makes engines more sensitive to oil quality. DI also has a unique weak spot - sludge buildup on intake valves that is related to blow-by. You have more blow-by as your engine oil accumulates miles, none the first couple thousand miles and up from there.

Mainly, this is what you want to avoid with frequent oil changes:



The above picture is of BMW engine, where too long service interval resulted in such problems. Pictured engine is only a year out of warranty and followed service interval. In response to these problems, BMW reduced recommended oil change interval but left owners paying out of pocket for mechanic's bills.

The only way following factory oil change interval makes sense if it is leased car that you will dump on the next sucker long before any of this becomes your problem. If you still see yourself driving your F-type at 50K miles, then half your oil change interval.

 

Agreed.
Since I got my F-Type 3 years and 4 months ago I have religiously changed the oil every six months (including an immediate change when I first got it), which works out at roughly 3,000 miles between changes. Relatively quick and easy to do via the top extraction tube and only costs me around $60 in oil and $25 for a filter so very cheap insurance IMO.

 

I'm at 6.8K or so under a 55K warranty, it's just that my dealer said they couldn't take me til next week. You suggesting I go to Jiffy Lube? no way. =)

 

Forget Jiffy Lube and definitely forget a JLR dealership, just DIY every second oil change (ie in between the dealership / warranty oil changes), as I said it's cheap and easy.