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Old Jan 31, 2021 | 01:55 AM
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Default XKR 5 ltr supercharged 2010 caliper problem

I’m looking for suggestions as to where to source a drivers side rear brake caliper or a pair mine has seized up and a guide to what it will cost to buy
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Old Jan 31, 2021 | 05:05 AM
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have you looked on the internet yet ? Obviously you can get one from a Jaguar main agent, but the price will be high. You also haven't told us if car is LH or RH drive.
Anyways, here is a UK site selling the rears, both sides.
https://www.berkshirejagcomponents.c...aa-c2x22297646
Not a huge amount of money.
 
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Bobby,

A Location would help. As a moderator, I can see you are in Bolton, UK but other members can't view this information. Please add it to your profile.

Cost depends on whether you have the standard XKR brakes, Alcon brakes, red calipers or black calipers but as a guide the cost from JLR will be in excess of 450 UKP. As Fraser has suggested, Berkshire Jag Components is a good alternative for less eye-ewatering prices. Once you have identified the correct P/N, used ones are available from specialist Jaguar breakers and I've found several listed on ebay.

I've refurbished a lot of calipers in my time and rarely ever had to replace one. Is the problem with yours beyond a rebuild?

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Old Jan 31, 2021 | 05:36 AM
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have you looked on the internet yet ? Obviously you can get one from a Jaguar main agent, but the price will be high. You also haven't told us if car is LH or RH drive.
Anyways, here is a UK site selling the rears, both sides.
https://www.berkshirejagcomponents.c...aa-c2x22297646
Not a huge amount of money.
This is the description
Fits:
All XK8 XKR Models With Standard Suspension
1996 to 2005 Steel Bodied Models
Excluding Brembo or R Performance

So not sure if it’s compatible
Mine is a rIght hand drive XKr 5ltr supercharged
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Originally Posted by Robert Bradshaw
This is the description
Fits:
All XK8 XKR Models With Standard Suspension
1996 to 2005 Steel Bodied Models
Excluding Brembo or R Performance

So not sure if it’s compatible
Mine is a rIght hand drive XKr 5ltr supercharged
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Bobby,

That is for the earlier steel bodied XKR (the 1996 - 2006 X100). You have the aluminium bodied XKR (2006 - 2014 X150). It will not fit yours.

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Bobby,

That is for the earlier steel bodied XKR (the 1996 - 2006 X100). You have the aluminium bodied XKR (2006 - 2014 X150). It will not fit yours.

Graham
Yes, indeed ! Carry on searching...........
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAND-NEW...IAAOSwlyBeQTX3
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I just checked and this doesn't fit the SC cars. Seems to me we're all better off not having these super-performance cars that one can only use a few hours a year round a track, as the costs of repair can get very large.
 

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Old Jan 31, 2021 | 11:43 AM
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Bobby,

A Location would help. As a moderator, I can see you are in Bolton, UK but other members can't view this information. Please add it to your profile.

Cost depends on whether you have the standard XKR brakes, Alcon brakes, red calipers or black calipers but as a guide the cost from JLR will be in excess of 450 UKP. As Fraser has suggested, Berkshire Jag Components is a good alternative for less eye-ewatering prices. Once you have identified the correct P/N, used ones are available from specialist Jaguar breakers and I've found several listed on ebay.

I've refurbished a lot of calipers in my time and rarely ever had to replace one. Is the problem with yours beyond a rebuild?

Graham
thanks for the reply and information I’m no expert by I’d say the caliper is well seized I’m going to call the company you suggested tomorrow and see if I can get a replacement it’s shocking how much jlr charge
 
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Originally Posted by Robert Bradshaw
..... I’d say the caliper is well seized .....
If you are trying to change brake pads, you do know the piston must be rotated to retract it?

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Old Feb 1, 2021 | 12:38 AM
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Default Thanks for the heads up yes I’m aware although I only tried to rotate it using mole g

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If you are trying to change brake pads, you do know the piston must be rotated to retract it?

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im going to buy the correct kit for the task can you please recommend one
thanks bobby, also is it anti clockwise for the kerbside (cars right hand drive in uk )
 
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The piston rotates clockwise to retract.

Here's a relevant discussion thread in X150 forum:
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...photos-146629/

Something like this tool should fit but check with the vendor it definitely fits Jaguar XK:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/22pc-Brak....c101195.m1851

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my dealer has rebuilt my calipers in the past... and it was not cost inhibitive.
 
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my dealer has rebuilt my calipers in the past... and it was not cost inhibitive.
Interesting that Canadian Dealers will do this. In the UK, a Jaguar Dealer would deliberately price the job to discourage rebuild although independent specialists such as BCS Automotive will do it.
https://www.bcs-automotive.co.uk/bra...refurbishment/

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I’d like to ‘like’ the education @GGG but I don’t want someone to misinterpret my like for the actual message.
So I’ve heard. Even the dealer I used to visit in the Boston area would be very helpful. Sadly, they are out of business.
The stories I have seen here about a dealer not being helpful, baffles me.
I do boil it down to the managed personal relationship. I do purposely make it my business to talk to not just the service writers but also the manager and the techs. And I never enter with a chip on my shoulder or an angry tone... as I often see others do. Perhaps supporting of the dealer, invokes a more helpful response?
 
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Guy,

Agreed. I've used the same Jaguar Dealer for more than forty years and never had any problems with servicing or parts. However, the business model has changed drastically in that time. Gone are days days of putting new brushes in starter motors and the like. It's all about selling and servicing new or current models and knowledge of any more than ten years old is rare as the older techs retire. Repairs are usually limited to fitting new parts.

A frequent content in forum posts about never using a Dealer is, I suspect, primarily from those who have never bought new or used from a Jaguar Dealer and always go elsewhere for parts. When something goes really wrong and these members then have to go to a Dealer, they get upset when they aren't greeted with the red carpet treatment.

Yes - it's all about attitude and relationships.

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Old Feb 1, 2021 | 11:21 AM
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[QUOTE=GGG;2348473]Interesting that Canadian Dealers will do this. In the UK, a Jaguar Dealer would deliberately price the job to discourage rebuild although independent specialists such as BCS Automotive will do it.
https://www.bcs-automotive.co.uk/bra...refurbishment/

Graham thanks again Graham for your brilliant input I think this is just the solution I’ve sent my details over to get a quote I’ll keep you posted
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Old Feb 1, 2021 | 11:55 AM
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[QUOTE=Robert Bradshaw;2348582]
Originally Posted by GGG
Interesting that Canadian Dealers will do this. In the UK, a Jaguar Dealer would deliberately price the job to discourage rebuild although independent specialists such as BCS Automotive will do it.
https://www.bcs-automotive.co.uk/bra...refurbishment/

Graham thanks again Graham for your brilliant input I think this is just the solution I’ve sent my details over to get a quote I’ll keep you posted
thanks bobby
I just read the thread about disconnecting the battery before removing the caliper unfortunately I never did this does the system need recalibrating ? I only removed one!
any advice, thanks bobby
 
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[QUOTE=Robert Bradshaw;2348594]
Originally Posted by Robert Bradshaw

I just read the thread about disconnecting the battery before removing the caliper unfortunately I never did this does the system need recalibrating ? I only removed one!
any advice, thanks bobby
Bobby,

Worry about the rebuild first. You can do the recalibration sequence once you have the parts ready to go back together. If you do remove the caliper and send it away for refurbishment, one other thing you need to source for the re-assembly is the copper crush washers for the flexi hose to caliper banjo connection. These are NOT re-useable. P/N C2C31805.

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Bobby,

Worry about the rebuild first. You can do the recalibration sequence once you have the parts ready to go back together. If you do remove the caliper and send it away for refurbishment, one other thing you need to source for the re-assembly is the copper crush washers for the flexi hose to caliper banjo connection. These are NOT re-useable. P/N C2C31805.

Graham
are the copper crush washers easy to find? I’ve sent my details off to the rebuild company so hopefully I’ll get a reply tomorrow, I just got a price of £260 for a replacement caliper which is half the price of jlr
 
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[QUOTE=Robert Bradshaw;2348613]
Originally Posted by GGG
are the copper crush washers easy to find? .....
Jaguar are showing stock of the washers but there's several sources listed on ebay.

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Old Feb 6, 2021 | 12:29 AM
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are the copper crush washers easy to find? I’ve sent my details off to the rebuild company so hopefully I’ll get a reply tomorrow, I just got a price of £260 for a replacement caliper which is half the price of jlr
im going to remove the callipers today and need to buy the hex key can you please let me know what size is required I’ve opted to send them away to be refurbished
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