Jaguar Engines & transmissions Discuss performance / modifications / upgrades etc here..

"Stock"?? Baseline Dyno 352 RWHP, 349 Torque

  #61  
Old 07-28-2012, 01:09 AM
Ipc838's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Tulsa, OK, United States
Posts: 908
Received 110 Likes on 83 Posts
Default

Well, seeing as how this thread is lost in space and
we've all moved on to the timeslip rather than the dyno...

I find 13.8s very impressive. XJR engines peak around
40-50k miles I would guess, and Car and Driver only
managed a 13.9@102 (if memory serves, the trap
speed may be a bit off) And Motor Trend a 13.7@ 103.8,

Those are professional drivers, with 3000mi cars and new
Pirelli rubber. For a daily driven XJR, I am impressed.
Obviously your dyno run was on a poorly calibrated machine,
but your XJR is no slouch. I'm sure I would be in the 14s
range in mine, I don't want to do a diff-slamming, gearbox
harming launch. I don't even care where the torque converter
stall point is. My car has done 40k more than yours anyway.
Too risky.

If you didn't do a proper launch, you could be losing .2-.5
seconds off that quarter mile time. I would say your car
is specially gifted, (or at least it is in the peak performance
of its engine life) and 420hp may not be as far off the mark
as you were expecting. Maybe it has 20hp tucked under
there secretly.

Ian
 

Last edited by Ipc838; 07-28-2012 at 01:11 AM.
The following users liked this post:
WaterDragon (07-30-2012)
  #62  
Old 07-28-2012, 01:23 PM
WaterDragon's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Los Gatos, CA
Posts: 1,761
Received 278 Likes on 193 Posts
Default

My newly installed boost gauge is reading only 9 lbs max, so I've ordered a goodyear gatorback belt to check if the stock Jag belt is slipping. The SC does have 53K miles on it so the tolerances could be loosening up a little.

My launches were both without any wheelspin, almost identical with and without traction control. I couldn't ask for better launches, except for my reaction times. The track here was nicely sticky.

I'm going to get another baseline dyno on the same machine that Rob and Marc used so we can compare apples to apples as we do our mods.

Cheers

EDIT: This 9 lb reading is with the STOCK pulleys. I am going to upgrade to add a 4lb lower when I can source one for a reasonable price.
 

Last edited by WaterDragon; 07-29-2012 at 12:40 PM. Reason: clarify current condition is on stock pulleys
  #63  
Old 07-28-2012, 01:29 PM
avos's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Europe
Posts: 3,615
Received 1,062 Likes on 759 Posts
Default

Go for a Gates one, these are very good, have only positive results to report with these in all my testing. Not sure why KenneBell is NOT recommending the gatorbacks, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it is for a good reason.
 
  #64  
Old 07-28-2012, 03:33 PM
WaterDragon's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Los Gatos, CA
Posts: 1,761
Received 278 Likes on 193 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by avos
Go for a Gates one, these are very good, have only positive results to report with these in all my testing. Not sure why KenneBell is NOT recommending the gatorbacks, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it is for a good reason.
Might you have a gates part # that would fit with a 4 lb lower pulley?
 
  #65  
Old 07-29-2012, 12:15 AM
avos's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Europe
Posts: 3,615
Received 1,062 Likes on 759 Posts
Default

If you give me the size of the pulley (boost doesn't tell that), i can calculate. But the company you bought it from should be able to tell, and which gatorback partno did you order?
 
  #66  
Old 07-29-2012, 10:08 AM
WaterDragon's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Los Gatos, CA
Posts: 1,761
Received 278 Likes on 193 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by avos
If you give me the size of the pulley (boost doesn't tell that), i can calculate. But the company you bought it from should be able to tell, and which gatorback partno did you order?
I'm jumping ahead of myself again...I don't actually have the pulley yet. I was hoping all 4 lb lower pulleys were close enough to be within the same tensioner adjustment range.

The gatorback part # is 4080515 but that is for the stock pulley.
 
  #67  
Old 07-29-2012, 10:37 AM
JgaXkr's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Boston Mass
Posts: 1,610
Received 256 Likes on 196 Posts
Default

I have never heard of a 4lb upper pulley. That would require quite a bit of grinding. If you purchase a lower pulley it should come with a belt. If you want a lower pulley I have one ready to go on an exchange basis.
 
The following users liked this post:
WaterDragon (07-29-2012)
  #68  
Old 07-29-2012, 11:06 AM
avos's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Europe
Posts: 3,615
Received 1,062 Likes on 759 Posts
Default

The stock belt from gates is the K080514, and this will not fit the larger lower pulley, you definitely need a specific size (to be provided by the seller of the pulley).
 
  #69  
Old 07-29-2012, 12:38 PM
WaterDragon's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Los Gatos, CA
Posts: 1,761
Received 278 Likes on 193 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JgaXkr
I have never heard of a 4lb upper pulley. That would require quite a bit of grinding. If you purchase a lower pulley it should come with a belt. If you want a lower pulley I have one ready to go on an exchange basis.


Hi,

Yes, 4 lb lower pulley. I couldn't imaging one could have a 4 lb upper without major slippage of the belt with so little surface area to grab on to.

Can you please tell me the price for yours? You can PM me if you prefer.

I was thinking of having a local machinist make me one if I just give him the outer diameter and a stock pulley. I think I would then just need to buy the crank dampner bolt and belt,...but that would require some time to mess with. I've been loosely quoted $40-50 just for the pulley out of steel, then the other stuff is maybe another 40-50??

I'd be happy to pay a bit more for a complete proven kit, but think the prices Eurotoys and powerhouse are asking are ridiculous.


p.s. just to clarify, my 9 lbs of max boost reading is on a completely stock car with stock pulleys and stock intake box with K&N drop in. The only mods I have actually made so far are to remove the 2 resonators just in front of the rear axle and added a meth kit which is currently running 2 x 175ml/mn = 350 ml/mn total injection of the Snow 51/49 boost juice. I had the meth injection turned off when getting the 9 lb max boost reading.
 

Last edited by WaterDragon; 07-29-2012 at 12:44 PM.
  #70  
Old 07-30-2012, 01:28 PM
WaterDragon's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Los Gatos, CA
Posts: 1,761
Received 278 Likes on 193 Posts
Default

JgaXkr,

Sent you a P.M. yesterday. If for some reason the PM system is not working, please email me directly at nicefishtanks@gmail.com

Thank you,
Jeff

p.s. I'm not expecting to get it at cost, I would be happy to pay a reasonable markup, just not the $500 that eurotoys is asking, given the actual costs are less than $100.
 
  #71  
Old 07-30-2012, 01:36 PM
WaterDragon's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Los Gatos, CA
Posts: 1,761
Received 278 Likes on 193 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by avos
If you give me the size of the pulley (boost doesn't tell that), i can calculate. But the company you bought it from should be able to tell, and which gatorback partno did you order?
177 mm diameter

Thanks again AVOS, you are always so helpful
 
  #72  
Old 07-30-2012, 02:40 PM
avos's Avatar
Veteran Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Europe
Posts: 3,615
Received 1,062 Likes on 759 Posts
Default

I guess a K080537 could fit nicely with a stock upper pulley, but no guarantees.
 
  #73  
Old 07-31-2012, 09:55 AM
WaterDragon's Avatar
Veteran Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Los Gatos, CA
Posts: 1,761
Received 278 Likes on 193 Posts
Default

duplicate post- Please delete
 

Last edited by WaterDragon; 07-31-2012 at 11:07 AM.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Poet
XK8 / XKR ( X100 )
6
06-07-2019 07:54 PM
Johnken
XK8 / XKR ( X100 )
11
04-08-2018 10:21 AM
Glenn Barickman
XK8 / XKR ( X100 )
0
10-01-2015 04:09 PM
caldoofy
XJ XJ6 / XJ8 / XJR ( X350 & X358 )
9
09-28-2015 08:43 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: "Stock"?? Baseline Dyno 352 RWHP, 349 Torque



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:23 PM.