Hi Folks
Does anyone have any experience with these two cylinders which are from China sold on E Bay,I have used some Chinese parts on other cars and its been a mixed bag,some are just land fill !!!
For me its free postage and half the price of UK ones they look the real deal but looks can be deceiving.Any advice most welcolme

Best Wishes Dan Gardner 1968 420 auto

 

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As for your question, I stay clear of all Chinese stuff from China when it comes to eBay, it never seems to come, and it takes months just to find that out.
I can't stand China's mindless polluting business practices of mostly poor quality stuff.

 

I bought a Chinese knock off of a brake booster unit for my Mk1.
So far it seems to work OK.and it was very cheap.
However, the problem is that some sources are good, and some are bad.
But that also applies to some western sourced car parts.
Once apon a time Japanese was the sub-standard for vehicles.
Now they are the leaders in quality assurance and quality control.
They have taught this to the Koreans.
The Chinese are latching on to this "big time.

 

China certainly does not have poor quality staff. The young generation is very well educated and capable. No one complains about their iPhone, iPod, iPad, Lenovo Think Pad etc. built there.

They are far more capable than middle America. e.g. an Auto worker. I would far rather have a Buick from Shanghai GM than the US crap. The Chinese have taken all the shoddy US workmanship out of the car. I would buy a Chinese or Vietnamese built Mercedes in a heartbeat. The Vietnam plant is the only plant outside Bremen & Sindelfingen allowed to build the S Class. They do a superb job.

I sometimes wonder if people have actually visited China. I have probably spent close to half of my working life there.

If you want it cheap they will build it cheap. If you want it up to global standard they will do that too & frequently better.

The US polluted the planet to hell during their Industrial Revolution & is hardly a shining light even today. Chevy Suburbans et al.

Who is top of class in US institutes of study? East Asians!!!!! They have the highest IQ's & EI's on the planet & were civilised long before ROW.

China is fighting pollution a lot harder than the US is. You can see the Pearl Tower from the Bund today & beautiful blue sky.


Pearl Tower from the Bund across the Huangpu River in Pudong.

 

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I don't know the exact figure but a lot of the stuff you buy from Amazon, E Bay and from motor parts companies is made in China. We have lost that type of industry in the UK due to labour costs along with material costs. I tend to buy goods from UK sellers because it arrives within a couple of days rather than waiting a month for it to be posted from China but if you study the spec sheets most of the time the goods are Chinese. It costs more from the UK seller but I can't be arsed to wait a month. Amazon are even better with most items purchased today and delivered tomorrow but they are still mostly Chinese made just shipped to the UK in containers so they are ready to purchase and be delivered immediately rather than the months delay.

 

The Caterpillar Asiatrak Division's plant is right next to ours in the Tianjin FTZ East of Beijing on the coast. Their quality is world standard and CAT is one damn fussy company. The Donaldson plant in Cape Town does all their Air Filtration. Get the Caterpillar yellow just a minor hint off Pantone and they will reject the entire batch..

 

Glyn, we've had these discussions before, nothing has changed.
You may show me all the quality products and innovative technology you want from China, I find it very frustrating the hit or miss products that come from there, eg. car parts.
Parts that have reliable names on them, are no longer reliable.

This guy over at the Ford Ranger forums went through 3 Delco Remy alternators before happening upon one that wasn't dead.
The water pump on my truck failed just out side the warranty, and I got a Ford one from the dealer, it's been in there now for several years _ I have no idea if it was made in China.

I have a Spectra fuel pump in there too, it's still going and it's made in China, while their radiators are made in Canada _ I have no idea where the aluminum matrix is made.

There is a huge problem here with cheap car parts out of China and there's very little choice, if any, to buy something else.
Pointing out how well things can be made doesn't fix things, nor the huge amount of my time replacing junky car parts.

Like having to remove the trans again because the slave cylinder on the clutch is leaking again.
I was able to get a Ford part, but I'm not working on it outside, not at this time of year.

The OP seems to have disappeared.

 

Well Jeff ~ You are plain wrong.

 

How do you explain 3 Delco Remy alternators from China that are all dead out of the box ?
That did happen, I'm not just making that up ?

 

It is abnormal to say the least. It's like the the Bearing companies in the Ningbo area south of Shanghai. *** or SKF may noise test every 500th bearing. Ningbo bearing companies noise test every bearing.

3 swallows does not a Spring make. How long ago was this BTW. The Chinese test everything.

Of course your Delco alternators might well have been counterfeit.

 

Note the counterfeit comment.

 

The equipment in all Chinese plants from pulp & paper plants, to cement plants to steel plants, to powergen, to engine plants such as Cummins etc. etc. etc. is all latest state of the art. The same can't be said for US plants.

 

Counterfeit products are usually easily identified. Their packaging is always superior to the genuine article.

I always refuse collection at Pudong Airport. I love the Maglev train at 430 kph & 8 minutes to centre of Shanghai.

Now they have a Shinkansen type high speed train from Shanghai to Beijing. What a pleasure. No traffic & no messing around in airports!

 

Thanks to all the members who responded,Chinese parts are quite controversial on another car I had a belt tensioner (Sniek) crack completely in half, it was supposed to be a German Company,it was about as German as a wanton!!,no warranty after 30 days.

Best Wishes Dan Gardner

 

As I say their are OEM approved Chinese manufactured parts. They are all represented in China. One of their largest markets in the world ~ and there are counterfeit parts that one must be aware of. Counterfeit parts were even found on Airforce One after close inspection. The President's plane!!!!!

Their are counterfeiters all over the place. Not just China.

The FAA have found that there are even counterfeiters of Plane parts in the US.

 

Spend enough money for enough time and accept the ROI isn't as good in the short-term as other financial games, and you too can become a manufacturing super power. Along the way, you'll make some junk, especially when you go into a new product area, but you can still do well ... at least until the money becomes more important than the making.

From the point of view of the buyer, especially buying via the internet where there's less possibility for judging quality, avoiding the junk isn't easy. Read the reviews of other people, look for trusted intermediaries, reject the too good to be true (it's either rubbish or made in a sweat shop, probably both), and inspect the item very carefully before fitting it. All this goes treble for something like the braking system.

And if an item is poor quality, let the rest of us know!

 

Absolutely Peter.

As I say:

"The FAA have found that there are even counterfeiters of Plane parts in the US."