MKI rips up the hill at Goodwood!
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MKI rips up the hill at Goodwood!
I'll second Brett's thoughts here — this is exactly how I like to see classic Jags driven! Look at her go!
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Not enough weight in the back and no limited slip differential _ assuming it still has the solid rear axle, which it probably does.
That and accompanied with too wide of a tire possibly, if wasn't so light in the rear...
I think another problem is the MkI's rear end was more narrow then at the front, it made for better cornering under normal driving conditions, but when it's pushed it doesn't work too well.
That and accompanied with too wide of a tire possibly, if wasn't so light in the rear...
I think another problem is the MkI's rear end was more narrow then at the front, it made for better cornering under normal driving conditions, but when it's pushed it doesn't work too well.
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Very cool footage - thanks for posting. It's amazing what modern tire technology has done for handling.
I had a coworker in London who vintage races a Mini Cooper S and a Coombs Mark 2. When I mentioned the extreme handling differences between the two he referred to the Mark as "the pig". "When you enter a corner you point the beast where you want to go, put your foot to the floor and hope for the best." Considering that live axle is dangling from the free end of a long leaf spring it's a wonder they do as well as they do.
I had a coworker in London who vintage races a Mini Cooper S and a Coombs Mark 2. When I mentioned the extreme handling differences between the two he referred to the Mark as "the pig". "When you enter a corner you point the beast where you want to go, put your foot to the floor and hope for the best." Considering that live axle is dangling from the free end of a long leaf spring it's a wonder they do as well as they do.
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Very cool footage - thanks for posting. It's amazing what modern tire technology has done for handling.
I had a coworker in London who vintage races a Mini Cooper S and a Coombs Mark 2. When I mentioned the extreme handling differences between the two he referred to the Mark as "the pig". "When you enter a corner you point the beast where you want to go, put your foot to the floor and hope for the best." Considering that live axle is dangling from the free end of a long leaf spring it's a wonder they do as well as they do.
I had a coworker in London who vintage races a Mini Cooper S and a Coombs Mark 2. When I mentioned the extreme handling differences between the two he referred to the Mark as "the pig". "When you enter a corner you point the beast where you want to go, put your foot to the floor and hope for the best." Considering that live axle is dangling from the free end of a long leaf spring it's a wonder they do as well as they do.
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Not enough weight in the back and no limited slip differential _ assuming it still has the solid rear axle, which it probably does.
That and accompanied with too wide of a tire possibly, if wasn't so light in the rear...
I think another problem is the MkI's rear end was more narrow then at the front, it made for better cornering under normal driving conditions, but when it's pushed it doesn't work too well.
That and accompanied with too wide of a tire possibly, if wasn't so light in the rear...
I think another problem is the MkI's rear end was more narrow then at the front, it made for better cornering under normal driving conditions, but when it's pushed it doesn't work too well.
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Both Doug and I have V8 Jaguar saloons and I am sure we have a LOT more power than that car as I do not think that straight 6 will put down 400 in Doug's case or 450+ HP in my Jaguar 3.8s. Now I see the value of the independent rear suspension and limited slip in my 3.8s
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Primaz current development of the XK engine for hill climbs and racing might amaze you. The Factory got 390 out of one prepped for racing on a test bed. My point was toward the comments of the car in question drifting so much and esp on take off. I was mostly thinking they had the rear gears locked. Depending on the depth of the inspections and the rules for the sanctioning body lots of mods are accepted. Bill Terry can get 400+ HP from the XK engine (Terry Tough). My observation is the engine in this car has been prepared in a similar manner.
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BUY 1 is the ex Salvadori Coombs Mk1, achieves a little over 300 BHP according to write ups, Tony Williams raced it and now his son Grant is following suit, Grant has driven it like that for many years, if you do a search, you will find plenty of older video footage of the same driving style.
From what I have read, I think Grant does it more for fun than necessity, it's a crowd pleaser and mostly because he can than because the car handles that way IMO.
From what I have read, I think Grant does it more for fun than necessity, it's a crowd pleaser and mostly because he can than because the car handles that way IMO.
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What rear axle would he be running George ? A locked diff is no damn use at all around a corner, you would get massive understeer.
There are axles out there that can be locked and unlocked electronically, but I doubt he has one like that on the Coombs Mk1.
Primaz, watch the video on slow mo and tell me he ain't doing that for fun. Looks to me like a crowd pleasing display, get's noticed and is fun, surely that's what the festival is all about, anyone know what the prize money is ?
There are axles out there that can be locked and unlocked electronically, but I doubt he has one like that on the Coombs Mk1.
Primaz, watch the video on slow mo and tell me he ain't doing that for fun. Looks to me like a crowd pleasing display, get's noticed and is fun, surely that's what the festival is all about, anyone know what the prize money is ?
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What rear axle would he be running George ? A locked diff is no damn use at all around a corner, you would get massive understeer.
There are axles out there that can be locked and unlocked electronically, but I doubt he has one like that on the Coombs Mk1.
Primaz, watch the video on slow mo and tell me he ain't doing that for fun. Looks to me like a crowd pleasing display, get's noticed and is fun, surely that's what the festival is all about, anyone know what the prize money is ?
There are axles out there that can be locked and unlocked electronically, but I doubt he has one like that on the Coombs Mk1.
Primaz, watch the video on slow mo and tell me he ain't doing that for fun. Looks to me like a crowd pleasing display, get's noticed and is fun, surely that's what the festival is all about, anyone know what the prize money is ?
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This will be interesting to see if the rear is locked or not.
We should have a pole, I'm going to say it's not locked.
This is based on the fact that he when he does slow down when he drives by the brick wall and hay bails, the car appears to handle OK.
If the rear was locked, I think there would be tire marks on the road due to the cars inability to corner properly if the rear end was indeed locked.
My Dad sold his 59 Chev truck for 50 bucks to a gear head, he locked the rear end and made the truck pretty much un-drivable, it jerked and chirped around every corner.
We should have a pole, I'm going to say it's not locked.
This is based on the fact that he when he does slow down when he drives by the brick wall and hay bails, the car appears to handle OK.
If the rear was locked, I think there would be tire marks on the road due to the cars inability to corner properly if the rear end was indeed locked.
My Dad sold his 59 Chev truck for 50 bucks to a gear head, he locked the rear end and made the truck pretty much un-drivable, it jerked and chirped around every corner.
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he drives it almost exactly like a 3 wheel Morgan racer. Makes sense as the rear track is narrower than the front. While it is possible he has added a LSD it is the most aggressive I have seen. We know the Diff was not stock as well as the body so lets see what it does have. A locked rear is almost not noticeable unless a hair pin turn. For the run on the tape (CD) it would be perfect.
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Just been to the Goodwood Revival, fantastic day, had a chat with Grant's chief mechanic, BUY1 has an LSD, and the answer to the squirley rear end was "Grant is a showman", they call him "King of the drift".
Couple of pictures of BUY1 and the crew, John the owner on the left Chief mechanic obviously with his back to the camera.
He came 3rd in the race I watched, he got put off the track by an Austin A38 on the first corner, and then battled to get into second, spending a lot of time going outside traffic and never managed to get around no 2, great race and a really good day out.
Couple of pictures of BUY1 and the crew, John the owner on the left Chief mechanic obviously with his back to the camera.
He came 3rd in the race I watched, he got put off the track by an Austin A38 on the first corner, and then battled to get into second, spending a lot of time going outside traffic and never managed to get around no 2, great race and a really good day out.
Last edited by TilleyJon; 09-09-2018 at 09:51 AM.
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