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Old Feb 17, 2018 | 06:08 PM
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My MK2 came to me in very bad condition and the parcel (or package) tray was completely disintegrated. It took me a while to determine what the small, badly rusted pieces of metal were that were under the rotted wood. They turned out to be the mounting clips for the parcel tray. The parts manual indicates that there are supposed to be three clips, but I can find what I believe to be only two locations on the sheet metal where the clips can connect. Where does the third clip connect on the sheet metal? It makes sense that it would be in the center, but someone cut a very crude hole in the sheet metal for a speaker and may have destroyed a mounting point. Any ideas or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 08:17 AM
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Anyone have pictures of how these fit? I have two Mk2s and neither still have these.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 09:01 AM
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Would it be similar on an S-Type? I've got to pull the shelf out of mine and could take photos if so
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 11:28 AM
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Not sure, but worth a shot. Thanks!
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 04:12 PM
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which shelf?

the S type has a movable shelf at the center of the dash.

the MK-2 has "Picnic Tables" on the back of the front seats.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 04:35 PM
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Jose, the parcel tray (sometimes called a package tray) Chuck and I are referring to is the one located at the rear window, behind the rear seat. There are three clips that hold it in place at the rear window, but neither Chuck nor I have any clue as to where the clips are attached.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 04:58 PM
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ohhh, the rear parcel shelf.

Here's what I think if I recall correctly:

The shelf is a peg board material covered with a foam layer over it, and then a vinyl covering;

then the peg board has three small holes equally spaced underneath it.

then three 2-way "flattened Z" clips go into those holes first,

then you push the shelf into place over the steel panel which has three "U" shaped raised "inserts" very close to the bottom of the rear glass gasket-seal.

this is what I recall, don't take it as the last word, I could be wrong and may be thinking XJ-6.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 05:06 PM
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Jose, Your description is fairly correct. The problem we are having is just exactly where to install the clips on the shelf that hold the shelf to the sheet metal. My shelf was made of plywood (not sure if it was original), but it was so badly deteriorated that I was unable to determine where to install the retaining clips. I fabricated a new shelf, but can't put the vinyl on until the clips are installed. I might be able to try a few locations, but too many holes in the plywood using the trial and error method might not be a good idea. Thanks for responding to our need.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 05:19 PM
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Ted,

how many speakers do you have over the shelf? One or two?

make lemonade out of the lemon:

If only one speaker, install a second speaker, and let each speaker press down the ends of the shelf.

then instead of bothering with a clip, just drill a small hole exactly in the center of the shelf, and use a chromed flathead ovaled head screw with a cup washer to keep the wood from warping at the center. (the same type of screw that matches the screws and cup washers used at the front "kick panels".

It may not be "factory original", but it it is an elegant solution.

Besides, most MK-2 and S type owners install speakers at the rear parcel shelf anyway.

If you don't want a screw and cup washer showing, use a totally flat plastic rivet which you push down and it grabs into a hole. Such "finishing rivets" have been used by Jaguar since the 1950's all the way to 1992.

also there are snap-over screw covers available today.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 05:31 PM
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Sounds like a possible solution, but I hadn't planned to put any speakers in the rear. I'm not even sure if I will install any type of sound system other than the original old radio that may or may not be functional. I just want to have a classic car that I can take to dinner once in a while or just cruise down the road some sunny afternoon. Thanks again for the idea.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 05:37 PM
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I understand Ted,
I'm sort of in the middle, I like a classic car with SOME modern conveniences like power mirrors, a nice sounding radio, a power antenna, a smaller steering wheel, but otherwise as original as possible.

this is my S type in the picture.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 08:26 PM
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Nice looking car. Did you restore it yourself? Some day mine might look as good (I hope).
 
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Old Feb 20, 2018 | 03:40 PM
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Just on a safety note, never place any article, especially an umbrella, on the ‘parcel/package’ shelf.
An item as small as a ball point pen can become a fatality inducing missile in the event of a crash.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2018 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tedwone
Nice looking car. Did you restore it yourself? Some day mine might look as good (I hope).

Ted,
the car is unrestored, other than a respray in 1984, and the improvements I have made like electric door mirrors, seat headrests, modern Jaguar radio, the paint is still excellent. No rust, no body damage, a Black Plate California car, owned by a famous California artist painter, Eugenia (Gene) Baker McComas (1886 - 1982), whose paintings are in the San Francisco and Monterey museums of art. She took very good care of her Jaguar.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2018 | 04:52 PM
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Problem solved. I spent some time making measurements and experimenting with scrap pieces of plywood to determine a good location for the parcel tray mounting/holding clips. The locations I chose may not be the exact locations as originally used when the car was built, but they work fine for my car.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2018 | 05:38 PM
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great, that's the way to do it.

Me I don't care for extreme originality, I like modernized old cars, and if I run into a situation like yours, I will find a way to make it work like you did.
 
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