MKI / MKII S type 240 340 & Daimler 1955 - 1967

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Old Mar 13, 2022 | 10:09 AM
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Anybody know where I can get these? I can't find them on SNG or anywhere else... but maybe I'm missing something
 
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Old Mar 13, 2022 | 10:24 AM
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you might try wheelboxes from XJ6 1968-1992, essentially the same system as previous Jaguar models.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2022 | 12:56 PM
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Do you need the whole thing including chrome-plated escutcheon. AFAIK, it is the shape of this that varies, but I think the basic box assemble is the same, but only a test fit will tell.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2022 | 01:21 PM
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Do you have one. If so what is wrong with it. Easily repaired.

It's not available new anywhere. You will either have to repair or find used.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2022 | 05:22 PM
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Often they just need to be stripped down, given a good internal clean and a re grease to get them working right. If it is the motor that has burnt out you might find it cheaper to have it rebuilt than find a New Old stock one.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2022 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Jose
you might try wheelboxes from XJ6 1968-1992, essentially the same system as previous Jaguar models.
''Do you need the whole thing including chrome-plated escutcheon. AFAIK, it is the shape of this that varies, but I think the basic box assemble is the same, but only a test fit will tell''

I'll measure mine up and see if I can get the dimensions of the ones fitted to the XJ6 which seem to be available new

''Do you have one. If so what is wrong with it. Easily repaired.''
Yes I have both. The shafts of both were completely seized in the aluminum tubes so when I removed them this loosened the fitting of the sleeve to the steel baseplate, meaning there's movement in the sleeve when you move the shaft. I'm also having trouble getting one of the shafts turning freely. Is there a way of removing the wheel from the shaft? Can it be pulled off?

''Often they just need to be stripped down, given a good internal clean and a re grease to get them working right. If it is the motor that has burnt out you might find it cheaper to have it rebuilt than find a New Old stock one.''
I haven't delved into the motor yet, but it looks in fairly rough shape. Both of the wheel boxes were completely seized. I have one moving freely but one is putting up a fight. I have it soaking in brake cleaner so we'll see how that goes. As I said earlier in removing them I caused some loosness between the aluminum sleeve and the baseplate. I'm trying to think of a way to repair this.

There seem to be wheel boxes available new for many old cars, but not ours. I'm thinking that there must be one of these that fits the S Type/Mk2. I can't be the first person to have knackered wheelboxes.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2022 | 06:02 AM
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I would not pull the wheel off the shaft. Leave the assembly soaking in penetrating oil for a couple of weeks. If that does not un-seize it completely I would dry off & gently apply some heat to the seizure.

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Old Mar 14, 2022 | 07:11 AM
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MG-B wheelboxes of the same years might work too.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2022 | 12:22 PM
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These motors and the associated drive mechanisms were used on numerous cars. There are variations in the details. Though they may at first sight seem complicated, they are actually fairly straightforward and quite a clever design. Moreover, they are very repairable. There's a lot of useful info in the following links:

https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/electric/pdf/2spd_dr3a2.pdf

https://www.s-v-c.co.uk/wiper-systems/
 
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Old Mar 14, 2022 | 01:02 PM
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Peter you are correct about MGA GURU.

He has a study about the DR3 wiper motors and also about how to add a coolant recovery tank to old radiators that never had one.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 03:32 AM
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Thank you all for the responses to this thread. I have followed up on the information provided and I think have all the resources I need to get the wiper system back in shape.
I found a compatible wheelbox here: https://www.carbuilder.com/uk/long-s...-wheelbox-64mm
I checked the dimension from the front plate of the base to the end of the shaft on my existing wheelbox which is 64mm and confirmed with these guys that this wheelbox is the same size. They also provide various other spare parts including the cable and tube that carries the cable.

 
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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 05:57 AM
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Paddy, Car Builder Solutions are a good source. They originally aimed at the kit car market, but have moved towards classics, resto-mod and custom.
 
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