PRIVATE For Sale / Trade or Buy Classifieds Want to Sell / Trade or buy for free? Then this is your section. NO COMMERCIAL posts. PLEASE COMPLETE THE PREFIX OPTION WHEN MAKING A POST FOR BEST RESULTS Please note: Any /all transactions are made entirely at members own risk, the forum cannot and will not be held responsible for any disputes arising.
Mark this thread as Unsold

FS[Europe]: Twin-Screw kit for AJV8 engines (100 to more than 200 extra HP)

 
Old Feb 6, 2014 | 02:21 PM
  #221  
GT42R's Avatar
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,295
Likes: 252
From: Canada
Default

The STR application may never be able to fit a 90mm throttlebody. If we could, I'm sure the answer would be 90mm upgrade for certain, but I think we are limited to modified stock throttlebody.
 
Old Feb 6, 2014 | 03:18 PM
  #222  
Robinb's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 880
Likes: 182
From: BC Canada
Default

Wow, I didn't know that!

Reason I asked was because, on Avos's twin/screw write up, he includes the STR and goes on to say that Stage 2 kits include a 90 mm TB.

If you are correct, 220 HP will not be achievable with the T/S upgrade on the STR. So, what can we hope for? 140? 150?
 
Old Feb 6, 2014 | 04:15 PM
  #223  
Michael Star's Avatar
Veteran member
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,327
Likes: 251
From: Bowling Green, KY
Default

Originally Posted by Robinb
Avos, excuse my ignorance - my indie is a Jag specialist, but:

Isn't there some special lining material that would have to be replaced after the TB is bored? Does Maxbore do that and also replace the butterfly valve?
If Stage 2 is going to be available later, would it make sense to just fit the 90 mm TB right away?
Maxbore does create a new butterfly, but mine went from 75mm (stock) to 78.5mm

 
Old Feb 6, 2014 | 05:10 PM
  #224  
Cambo's Avatar
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 8,637
Likes: 4,526
From: Sydney, Australia
Default

Guys I think you'll find there is a bigger TB from Maxbore already available.

Originally Posted by avos
Maybe for the smaller 4.2 TB's, but those where only able to be bored out to 78mm.

But that has changed now!

I have asked if Maxbore could go further than 78mm on these 4.2's, and possibly re-sleeve, so have send him one again. And the good news is he was able to, he can go to 82mm now! I will recieve the 1st one in 1 a week or so.
So there you have it, 82mm.
 
Old Feb 7, 2014 | 12:57 AM
  #225  
avos's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Veteran Member
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,616
Likes: 1,070
From: Europe
Default

Originally Posted by Robinb
Avos, excuse my ignorance - my indie is a Jag specialist, but:

Isn't there some special lining material that would have to be replaced after the TB is bored? Does Maxbore do that and also replace the butterfly valve?
If Stage 2 is going to be available later, would it make sense to just fit the 90 mm TB right away?
Good to hear he is a Jaguar specialist, that can help.

You do get a new butterfly to match the new diameter, but there is no extra coating. As far as I understand the coating is there to lower the chance (i.e. extend the time) of carbon buildup. On EGR systems you do get a lot of it (probbaly due to the oil mist from the engine breathers mixing with the hot exhaust gases), just have a look in your TB already now, you'll be surprised. On the new intake system it will probably take much longer before that can happen, and now it’s also easy to access, so cleaning (if it does happen) is easy!

As said I am not sure what the maximum is you can get out of the system until I have finished the setup and done a dyno at least. It’s not that the 82mm will not bring you far, it’s just that with the 90mm version you can go further as that one at higher airflows has less restriction, so you can push it even further with pulley changes. To fit a 90mm, much more would be required, lowering the engine or increase the bulge in on the hood for more room, so that’s not worth the effort imho. The bored out 82mm stock TB is a big step over the stock 75mm once you suck more air thru with the KB unit.

The 82mm is a special order, as it is really the max you can go, so the unit must be handled with care.

I have in the meantime also updated the 1st page with more details, the Stage I and II parts where not for the STR.
 
Old Feb 7, 2014 | 11:09 AM
  #226  
Robinb's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 880
Likes: 182
From: BC Canada
Default

Thanks Avos, I have now checked the Maxbore website - they don't specifically mention the STR, so I assume the TB used in the XJR AJ26 engine and in the STR are identical?

Your Stage 1 details call for the bypass valve to be returned as a core. Is there a chance that the final Stage 1 kit might also include the TB as a core exchange?
 
Old Feb 7, 2014 | 11:53 AM
  #227  
GT42R's Avatar
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,295
Likes: 252
From: Canada
Default

Very exciting stuff. 82mm upgrade through maxbore is great news.

I was considering upgrading to an 07+ XKR in the future, but with this TS kit on the horizon, I am very tempted to just keep my STR...

82mm throttlebody, ts kit @ 21psi, methanol injection for fueling supplement, 500whp should be possible on a 4.2L. What do you think avos?
 
Old Feb 7, 2014 | 01:50 PM
  #228  
Injekter's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 515
Likes: 72
From: ORYGON
Default

does anyone know , or has it been mentioned as to the price of the twin screw for the STR should they become available?
 
Old Feb 7, 2014 | 10:15 PM
  #229  
Cambo's Avatar
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 8,637
Likes: 4,526
From: Sydney, Australia
Default

Originally Posted by Robinb
Thanks Avos, I have now checked the Maxbore website - they don't specifically mention the STR, so I assume the TB used in the XJR AJ26 engine and in the STR are identical?
No the throttle bodies are unique to the 4.2L STR and XJR (and XF). Completely different and incompatible to the earlier 4.0L engines, and even the 4.2L XKR is different again.
 
Old Feb 8, 2014 | 01:53 AM
  #230  
avos's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Veteran Member
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,616
Likes: 1,070
From: Europe
Default

Originally Posted by Robinb
Thanks Avos, I have now checked the Maxbore website - they don't specifically mention the STR, so I assume the TB used in the XJR AJ26 engine and in the STR are identical?

Your Stage 1 details call for the bypass valve to be returned as a core. Is there a chance that the final Stage 1 kit might also include the TB as a core exchange?
The TBs are totally different as Cambo also pointed out, its just accidental that they can be bored out the same.

Once the kit is done I will setup a special section for the 4.2 STR and 4.2 XJR, there is no need for the bypass valve to be returned for these models.
 
Old Feb 8, 2014 | 02:01 AM
  #231  
avos's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Veteran Member
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,616
Likes: 1,070
From: Europe
Default

Originally Posted by GT42R
82mm throttlebody, ts kit @ 21psi, methanol injection for fueling supplement, 500whp should be possible on a 4.2L. What do you think avos?
I think 500whp could be possible, but that may require some extra mods or higher pressure, but lets see how far I 1st get
 
Old Feb 8, 2014 | 07:32 PM
  #232  
chXFS's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 424
Likes: 99
From: South Carolina
Default

Originally Posted by avos
I think 500whp could be possible, but that may require some extra mods or higher pressure, but lets see how far I 1st get
Avos, I have a 4.2 XF. Will the STR kit fit my car? Or are you gonna tap into that market? Also , would boring out my throttle body have any benefit on my car without your kit? Thanks!!!
 
Old Feb 9, 2014 | 08:28 AM
  #233  
avos's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Veteran Member
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,616
Likes: 1,070
From: Europe
Default

Originally Posted by chXFS
Avos, I have a 4.2 XF. Will the STR kit fit my car? Or are you gonna tap into that market? Also , would boring out my throttle body have any benefit on my car without your kit? Thanks!!!
The STR kit will already fit the 4.2 XFR, and its certainly something I could do. But I would need to have a car here to do a 1st.

Boring out the TB for a stock setup would make little effect imho.
 
Old Apr 12, 2014 | 11:57 PM
  #234  
ryan.logan1's Avatar
Junior Member
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 14
Likes: 16
Default

I apologize if this has already been addressed, but how will this affect the lifespan of my car (2001 XKR) if I were to have this installed?
 
Old Apr 15, 2014 | 12:44 AM
  #235  
avos's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Veteran Member
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,616
Likes: 1,070
From: Europe
Default

Originally Posted by ryan.logan1
I apologize if this has already been addressed, but how will this affect the lifespan of my car (2001 XKR) if I were to have this installed?
It obviously wouldn't increase it, but as with any tuning, it becomes more critical to be alert on any issues you may have as with the extra power consequences can come quicker. Equally important is good maintenance and care, i.e. never floor the car when the engine oil isn’t up to temp yet. Last but not least, it will also depend on how you use the power, i.e. only street (meaning relatively short bursts of power, less demanding on the engine), or on the track (meaning long time of full power, more demanding on the engine).

I drive only on the street, but do several wots a day. On my original 4.0 engine I drove about 50Kmiles with TS setups, after 125Kmiles I swapped the engine (which was still in perfect shape) for a 4.2 engine. That one I have driven now for 115Kmiles with about 475-525 rwhp in that period.
 
Old Apr 15, 2014 | 12:13 PM
  #236  
JustNiz's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 422
Likes: 79
From: Phoenix, AZ
Default

Hi Andre,

How's the twin screw kit for 2008 (new shape 4.2) XKR coming along?

Thanks,
Neil.
 
Old Apr 16, 2014 | 12:50 AM
  #237  
avos's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Veteran Member
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,616
Likes: 1,070
From: Europe
Default

Originally Posted by JustNiz
Hi Andre,

How's the twin screw kit for 2008 (new shape 4.2) XKR coming along?

Thanks,
Neil.
Am still in preparation phase, one of the things I want to do is to add bigger injectors for the newer 4.2 XKs. I expect to receive them next week, and will install them quickly afterwards on my car and test them out.
 
Old Apr 20, 2014 | 11:48 AM
  #238  
parwun's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 58
Likes: 10
From: Estonia
Default

Just found this thread and Iam shocked.
Sending a PM...
Anyone have this on 4.0 XJR already?
 

Last edited by parwun; Apr 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM.
Old May 1, 2014 | 07:53 AM
  #239  
bfarrell's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 156
Likes: 46
From: Toronto
Default

Originally Posted by avos
Am still in preparation phase, one of the things I want to do is to add bigger injectors for the newer 4.2 XKs. I expect to receive them next week, and will install them quickly afterwards on my car and test them out.

I've been waiting for this kit.......
 
Old May 3, 2014 | 11:44 AM
  #240  
avos's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Veteran Member
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,616
Likes: 1,070
From: Europe
Default

I have received the new fuel injectors yesterday and have installed just now on my car. So far so good! Will do some good driving the next week to see how it works out.

@Bfarrell,
Am still commited to make one and the injector testing will be part of the of it as well.
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:32 AM.