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HEy guys I need your opinion on this which are better spark plugs for the STR Champion Iridium or NGK Iridium? The champions have a gap of .050 and the NGK's have gap of .040. What is the OEM spark plug gap for the STR Jag? On http://sparkplugs.com/results_app.asp?aaia=1410635 it says that the Champions are of OE for the STR, but I'm still deciding which one to choose, any help

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Denso iridium.
 
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A spark plug is a spark plug. Don't sweat the small stuff.
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisSTR
A spark plug is a spark plug. Don't sweat the small stuff.
Absolutely agree, A plug is a plug, and a spark is a spark.
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisSTR
A spark plug is a spark plug. Don't sweat the small stuff.
LOlz....yeah but there is a difference btw Iridium and Platnum head plugs. So all I wanted to know is which is better suited for the STR's, Champions or NGK, Denso is good too, but for the price of Denso I might as well get the OEMs.
 
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Originally Posted by jag79
LOlz....yeah but there is a difference btw Iridium and Platnum head plugs.
In price and durability, maybe. Performance, nope.
 
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Originally Posted by Mikey
Absolutely agree, A plug is a plug, and a spark is a spark.
Not true for modern engines.
 
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Originally Posted by jagv8
Not true for modern engines.
Proof please, and not marketing cr*p. Thanks.
 

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The original plugs in my XK8 were NGK iridium, so I replaced with similar. I know, not an s-type or an 'R', but still.
 
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Originally Posted by Mikey
Proof please, and not markleting cr*p. Thanks.
Read automotive research journals. Consider them marketing if you wish. Your car: you fit what you like.

The idea that a spark is a spark is .... somewhat behind the technological reality.
 

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Originally Posted by jagv8
Read automotive research journals. Consider them marketing if you wish. Your car: you fit what you like.
I have, lots of them. There is no mention of 'improved performance'.

Link please.
 
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taken from a simple google search:



Kenny Duttweiler of Duttweiler Performance in Saticoy, California is no stranger to making horsepower, especially with turbochargers. After years of building little turbocharged V-6 Buicks that produce in excess of 1,500-hp, he found a lucrative market in NMCA's "World Fastest Street Car" classes building 1,700-hp small-block Chevy V-8s for winning racers such as Bob Rieger and Rod Saboury.



Kenny had no idea that the solution to this perplexing problem would be a new iridium spark plug technology from Denso. In Denso's research for an OEM spark plug that would provide 200,000 miles of service life and lower vehicle emissions, Denso developed a new iridium alloy electrode spark plug. The progression from nickel alloy plugs to platinum plugs in 1982 was a giant leap forward in technology. Denso's introduction of the iridium alloy spark plug will prove to be even more significant, especially for high-performance and race engines. The major difference in the Denso Iridium Power spark plug and conventional platinum plugs, besides the alloy, is the size of the center electrode. A typical platinum plug has a 1.1mm diameter center electrode. The Denso Iridium Power OEM plugs have a .7mm diameter center electrode and the Denso high-performance plugs have a .4mm center electrode.
 
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Yes, I've seen that one and almost lost my coffee on the screen when I first read it.

http://corp.advanceautoparts.com/eng...20010101ds.asp

"When the word gets out about the new Denso Iridium Power spark plugs that added 750-hp to Kenny Duttweiler's 450-cid twin-turbocharged Ford, engine builders and tuners will gain more respect for the lowly spark plug."


This infers that the previous plug was unable to 'light the fire' causing a performance LOSS. If a given plug reliably fires the combustion chamber charge, there is nothing more to be gained by zoomy-swish expenseomatic plugs. The stock plugs do an excellent job of performing that function.

Here's another quote from the article:

"In Denso's research for an OEM spark plug that would provide 200,000 miles of service life and lower vehicle emissions, Denso developed a new iridium alloy electrode spark plug."

There's the durability I mentioned. Lower emissions? How? It must presume that the previous plug has failed and that the iridium plug keeps on trucking.

BTW- my professional background is 31 years in the engine development, manufacturing, field support and safety/reliability tracking business. I had years of direct OEM experience with better, faster, stonger plugs being peddled by the manufacturers. No difference in performance from best to worse, but a measurable difference in durability and reliability.
 
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Great. Where did I talk about "improved performance"? Oh yeah, I didn't. Don't accuse me of stuff I didn't do, please.
 
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So we agree then. Great!
 
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It doesn't look like you agree with me.
 
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Sooo denso Spark plugs it is for my 03' STR!
 
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Originally Posted by jagv8
It doesn't look like you agree with me.
What specifically do we NOT agree on?

Durability- better

Price- higher

Performance- same
 
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You keep putting words in my mouth. We will never agree as long as you do that.
 
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Each one has their opinion ,I think this thread will be look like "WHAT'S THE BEST OIL FOR S TYPE" .
You may agree or disagree that doesn't matter that much but what matters is keep your temper and good manner
 


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