Broken lug nut? Here's the fix!
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Broken lug nut? Here's the fix!
I was changing out all my lug nuts on the STR and replacing the rusted studs when I had one last factory lug nut which broke. We all know how much of a pain in the a$$ these things are to get off so I took my first visit to All Jaguar here in Orlando:
www.alljaguar.com
First off, these are a great bunch of guys and are really here to help you fix your car not just slap a part on and give you the bill. Bill, the father, is who actually worked on my car (even though they have a full staff in the garage) and he already knew what to do to get the broken lug nut off. He had 'invented' a tool which is a hole saw with drill bit and 2 nuts on the hole saw shaft to keep it from slipping (yea, I know I used 2 nuts and shaft in the same sentence you dirty *******s). Here's what a hole saw looks like for those who are tool handicapped:
It worked like a charm! It basically sawed off the lower ring on the lug nut and the washer ring which then allows you to remove the wheel and take the remainder piece of lug nut off. It makes so much sense that it can only be:
Here's a few pics where you can see the hole drilled into the stud and where the lug nut would have been:
Here it is without the arrows:
Here's the studs that are rusted compared to the new one's (new studs are from a Lincoln LS and are exactly the same):
www.alljaguar.com
First off, these are a great bunch of guys and are really here to help you fix your car not just slap a part on and give you the bill. Bill, the father, is who actually worked on my car (even though they have a full staff in the garage) and he already knew what to do to get the broken lug nut off. He had 'invented' a tool which is a hole saw with drill bit and 2 nuts on the hole saw shaft to keep it from slipping (yea, I know I used 2 nuts and shaft in the same sentence you dirty *******s). Here's what a hole saw looks like for those who are tool handicapped:
It worked like a charm! It basically sawed off the lower ring on the lug nut and the washer ring which then allows you to remove the wheel and take the remainder piece of lug nut off. It makes so much sense that it can only be:
Here's a few pics where you can see the hole drilled into the stud and where the lug nut would have been:
Here it is without the arrows:
Here's the studs that are rusted compared to the new one's (new studs are from a Lincoln LS and are exactly the same):
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Sorry to ask (clue-less in Boston?) but why is it so tough to get the old bolt out? Can't you just remove the wheel and then pound the stub out through the hub? Is there something on the inner side of the hub that prevents the old bolt from sliding out and not allowing a new one to be slide in?
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>>Sorry to ask (clue-less in Boston?) but why is it so tough to get the old bolt out?
>The chrome nut covers strip/slip and the nut will not unscrew off the stud.
Aw, ok, the old two piece lug nut problem. Had it, AAA could only spin the nut, needed tire shop to remove nut to fix flat, replaced with the recommended one piece nuts (and just got my gorilla wrench to fit the new sized nuts).
Believe the tire shop probably had some sort of tapered tool that they forced down on the nut. They gave it back and the chrome cover was badly deformed.
Ok, everybody, you've been warned again. Replace the lug nuts ASAP!
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>The chrome nut covers strip/slip and the nut will not unscrew off the stud.
Aw, ok, the old two piece lug nut problem. Had it, AAA could only spin the nut, needed tire shop to remove nut to fix flat, replaced with the recommended one piece nuts (and just got my gorilla wrench to fit the new sized nuts).
Believe the tire shop probably had some sort of tapered tool that they forced down on the nut. They gave it back and the chrome cover was badly deformed.
Ok, everybody, you've been warned again. Replace the lug nuts ASAP!
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100% WRONG!
Please do some reading as this has been completely beat to death. Regardless of what you do the covers will get deformed and you will get a lug nut stuck on the lug. Many, many examples on this forum.
Please replace the two piece lug nuts ASAP. BEFORE you are on the side of the road trying to change a tire. It won't be pretty.
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Please do some reading as this has been completely beat to death. Regardless of what you do the covers will get deformed and you will get a lug nut stuck on the lug. Many, many examples on this forum.
Please replace the two piece lug nuts ASAP. BEFORE you are on the side of the road trying to change a tire. It won't be pretty.
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Rubbish, my car is 11 years old with all original nuts and I have had zero problems with the wheels and tyres being removed on numerous occasions!
Air tools and the wrong imperial sockets is your biggest problem.
How come this seems to be far lesser of a problem in Europe where the correct size, metric socket, is likely to be used?
We have more corrosion in the UK due to road salt and a generally damp environment than most places!
It's a very rare occurrence for this issue to be mentioned on UK and European forums but it's commonplace on this mostly U.S forum.
Air tools and the wrong imperial sockets is your biggest problem.
How come this seems to be far lesser of a problem in Europe where the correct size, metric socket, is likely to be used?
We have more corrosion in the UK due to road salt and a generally damp environment than most places!
It's a very rare occurrence for this issue to be mentioned on UK and European forums but it's commonplace on this mostly U.S forum.
Last edited by Corv; 08-15-2014 at 11:42 AM.
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Rubbish, my car is 11 years old with all original nuts and I have had zero problems with the wheels and tyres being removed on numerous occasions!
It's a very rare occurrence for this issue to be mentioned on UK and European forums but it's commonplace on this mostly U.S forum.
It's a very rare occurrence for this issue to be mentioned on UK and European forums but it's commonplace on this mostly U.S forum.
On a side note, I have often wondered why there is a separate UK and possibly a European forums for those over there. All this seems redundant at times.
We are basically a North American forum but not actually officially called that???
The more the merrier I guess... just feel slighted. We need our own.
JUST SAYIN.
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Worn out sockets
Right on Norri.
Depending on use, such as dirty, stuck, rusted, over torqued nuts, combined
with constant use will wear out a socket.
They wear in two directions of rotation.
Why replace them?
After all, they work fine on one piece nuts.
Thank you
Ron
Depending on use, such as dirty, stuck, rusted, over torqued nuts, combined
with constant use will wear out a socket.
They wear in two directions of rotation.
Why replace them?
After all, they work fine on one piece nuts.
Thank you
Ron
Last edited by Her jag; 10-05-2014 at 07:25 PM.
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100% WRONG!
Please do some reading as this has been completely beat to death. Regardless of what you do the covers will get deformed and you will get a lug nut stuck on the lug. Many, many examples on this forum.
Please replace the two piece lug nuts ASAP. BEFORE you are on the side of the road trying to change a tire. It won't be pretty.
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Please do some reading as this has been completely beat to death. Regardless of what you do the covers will get deformed and you will get a lug nut stuck on the lug. Many, many examples on this forum.
Please replace the two piece lug nuts ASAP. BEFORE you are on the side of the road trying to change a tire. It won't be pretty.
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There, does it feel better being on the receiving end?
The cover behaves no differently than a stainless steel shim.
The real problem is ham fisted gorillas using the wrong size or type of socket.
Use a well fitting six point socket and there will be no problems.
Just because something might happen once in x thousand times does not make
wholesale replacement of the part a necessity.
A good breaker bar and the correct six point socket is far cheaper than
a full set of replacement lug nuts. Many people on JF already have them.
The trick is to pull them out of the toolbox and keep them in the car.
Furthermore, the factory lug nut shank dimensions are extremely hard
to find in a replacement lug nut. Those shank dimensions are critical
to proper function.
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If by wrong size tool you mean the lug wrench supplied in the tool kit with the car, then yes I've used the wrong tool.
First time I went to take the wheels off m X-Type that silly little cap rounded out 6 of 10 nuts on the rear. That's when I got pissed, reached for the impact and replaced them all.
If the Jaguar lug wrench is the wrong tool then what could be the right one?
First time I went to take the wheels off m X-Type that silly little cap rounded out 6 of 10 nuts on the rear. That's when I got pissed, reached for the impact and replaced them all.
If the Jaguar lug wrench is the wrong tool then what could be the right one?
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