Gearbox issues after fluid change
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Gearbox issues after fluid change
Last week I had my 6hP26 gearbox serviced (s type 3.0l 2004 139,000 miles). Basically a complete drain, new sump and seals etc.
We used the Launch 501 exchanger connected to the oil cooler pipes. 15 litres of lifeguard 6 in total.
Old fluid didn't have any burnt smell. Didn't see any shiny particles on the old sump.
Unfortunately the garage weren't able to reset the adaptions or perform any software upgrade.
Been having issues with lumpy changes, rpm surge 40-60 mph while cruising, and the occassionaly gearbox fault when putting it into reverse which goes away after restarting.
Some of you may know from my thread on another forum already.
Anyway its now in with VMTP Midlands ZF specialist. Tomorrow on Monday they will look at it.
I am praying and praying that its the just the incorrect oil level and needs the tcm adaptions reset etc.
Of course the gearbox specialists were full of doom and gloom about it having worn bushes and will probably need a rebuild even before looking at it.
I've asked them to first check the oil, reset adaptions, software upgrades (one for the surge also), and drive cycle.
Just hoping no faults come up for the mechatronic unit.
Thanks
We used the Launch 501 exchanger connected to the oil cooler pipes. 15 litres of lifeguard 6 in total.
Old fluid didn't have any burnt smell. Didn't see any shiny particles on the old sump.
Unfortunately the garage weren't able to reset the adaptions or perform any software upgrade.
Been having issues with lumpy changes, rpm surge 40-60 mph while cruising, and the occassionaly gearbox fault when putting it into reverse which goes away after restarting.
Some of you may know from my thread on another forum already.
Anyway its now in with VMTP Midlands ZF specialist. Tomorrow on Monday they will look at it.
I am praying and praying that its the just the incorrect oil level and needs the tcm adaptions reset etc.
Of course the gearbox specialists were full of doom and gloom about it having worn bushes and will probably need a rebuild even before looking at it.
I've asked them to first check the oil, reset adaptions, software upgrades (one for the surge also), and drive cycle.
Just hoping no faults come up for the mechatronic unit.
Thanks
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I'm quite sure that either you have incorrect oil level or the TCM is making problems. It has to be measured at exactly 30 degrees Celsius. Also you have to reset the TCU after an oil change. That's just my 50 cents of experience driving and servicing those gearboxes in quite a few cars that I own.
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I bought my car with 120k mi. on the odo. with no proof the trans had ever been serviced. I've never had a problem in the 15k I've added. The only time I ever noticed the dreaded "clunk" was a few times on cruise control where it would down shift smoothly on a hill but have a slight clunk when shifting back into a higher gear. I have an iCarsoft and check the trans temp on a 3hr drive @ 70-80mph and the temp doesn't go over 75C (167F) that is well below the 200F operating temp of the 6HP26 that makes me continue to feel like I don't want anyone messing with it for the fear of this..
Last edited by ZenFly; 04-16-2018 at 03:52 AM.
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Wow, 6L at $60 a litre (here that's what I paid) is a masssive extra cost. I don't really see the gain. Do you flush the engine out with clean oil before refilling it after a service?
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Wow, that's even more expensive than here !
I don't do engine flushes myself, I just change regularly. It's not the same thing with the gearbox & torque converter though, as I've come to understand from following the threads I mentioned. Apparently quite a bit of the old oil is supposed to remain behind & the machine is supposed to change more of it. I just have my indie do my gearbox services, (3rd one done less than 10k ago), & all seems fine, along with everyone else who does it the 'usual' way.
I don't do engine flushes myself, I just change regularly. It's not the same thing with the gearbox & torque converter though, as I've come to understand from following the threads I mentioned. Apparently quite a bit of the old oil is supposed to remain behind & the machine is supposed to change more of it. I just have my indie do my gearbox services, (3rd one done less than 10k ago), & all seems fine, along with everyone else who does it the 'usual' way.
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I'm quite sure that either you have incorrect oil level or the TCM is making problems. It has to be measured at exactly 30 degrees Celsius. Also you have to reset the TCU after an oil change. That's just my 50 cents of experience driving and servicing those gearboxes in quite a few cars that I own.
When I flushed my ZF6HP26 myself, with wife's help, using the trans cooler lines a quart at a time until the fluid was clear doing a fill check at approx 40 degrees C.
I used a little over 10 quarts. After a test drive I checked the fluid level at 40 degrees C and it required a little more to "top off".
Last edited by jackra_1; 04-18-2018 at 07:31 AM.
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The temperature at which it is done will dictate whether it is under-filled or overfilled or properly filled.
Also the trans has to be "level".
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