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Old May 24, 2010 | 06:21 PM
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Today Phil of Euro Tek Designs met with me to test drive my 03 STR. He said with 90k on the odometer she looked beautiful
and performed very nicely. He's owned an 03 and an 05. Euro Tek of Bronxville, NY also tunes the ECU's for other companies, ie. Euro Toys, etc.

For $1200 you recieve an ECU tune (the meat and potatos), an upper pulley, and a K&N filter (he will delete $40 if you already have one). He has associates that will install the pulley for $200. He highly recommends the upgraded manufacturers belt ($70?) and idler pulley ($90?) along with pulley install. He does not recommend a lower temp thermostat, finding it does little if nothing in conjunction with ECU tune, etc. He feels it richens the top end too much. He did say a low temp therm may be valuable in high temperature regions (Texas).

For no additional charge Euro Tek will retune the ECU if future mods are performed and there is a four year warranty.

Phil feels the stock exhaust tubing is adequate to support higher hp mods (up to 475 hp), suggesting freer flowing mufflers (I have Magnaflows) and eliminating the forward resonators this thursday but not the rear. He also feels placing 2 1/2" pipe and an x-pipe reduces back pressure too much, in additon to losing low end trq. from both; causes an intolerable cabin resonance.

I'll likely have Euro Teks Stage 1 performed next month and may install H&R springs.
 
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Old May 24, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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How much for just a tune

great news there.....

what about meth?
 
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Old May 24, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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wow.. 1200? that sounds like its 200 for the pulley and the rest for the tune then right? whats the horespower after this $1200 investment? oh and DO IT!!!
 
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Old May 24, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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Riski, I didn't ask him but I'll call him tomorrow for you...but I believe Phil will tune your ECU for less than $1200 ($900?) if I buy his tune. He's nocking off $40 for the K&N air filter that I already have. We hit it off pretty good. After test driving my Jag he gave me a ride in his 550+ hp 2008 BMW M5 (V-10). I had to remind him that I had four children depending on me. He may come to my office for health care too. I'll see if I can arrange something for us.
 
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Old May 24, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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$1200 plus $200 to install the pulley so $1400.00
 
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Old May 24, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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also ask if it fixes the redline issue in lower gears.....what is the rear wheel dyno number after pulley and tune?
 
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Old May 24, 2010 | 09:37 PM
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Transporter, the ECU tune, upper pulley, and K&N air filter are good for approx. 40 hp and 80 lb/ft trq. He'll raise redline a hundred RPM. He admits the stock exhaust (dual 2 1/4") is adequate to 450+ hp with the exception of the stock restrictive mufflers (I put on Magnaflows and will remove the forward resonators). He doesn't recommend an X-pipe or removing "all" the resonators due to loss of back pressure= loss of trq. from our small cube engines, and high cabin resonance frequencies. He also said a lower temp thermostat can cause loss of power in temperate climates (NY), only warranted in hot climate (Texas). He closed by suggesting to remove the actuated lower airbox baffle for crisper throttle response and blow some oil from the K&N air filter as a means to avoid further possibilty of fouling the air flow sensor. The dude is a wealth of technical info. beyond our comprehension. He owned an 03 and 05 STR and knows our cars inside and out. He drives a late model Porsche, M5 (he took me for a near heart attack ride), and a 2010 Camaro SS he took apart for a future blower project. I hope to have the dough next month. I'm going to Jaguar tomorrow for a reflash of TCM and ECU in hopes of ridding a 1st to 2nd short shift by teaching a virgin TCM program a redline shift pattern.
 

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Old May 24, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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Marc, yes $1400 if pulley install included. He highly recommends the updated belt ($50?) and idler pulley ($90?) to avoid slippage and squeel. I ask him to consider a group rate (reduction) if others here are interested.

Riski, If crank hp is 440 I figure RWHP is approx. 380 hp TRQ @ crank is 488 lb/ft so perhaps RWTRQ is approx. 440 lb/ft.?

Go to Euro Teks web site to see his published dyno numbers.
 
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Old May 24, 2010 | 09:56 PM
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Riski, I failed to mention Phil said red line issues have been resolved with his tune due to the ECU willing to adjust outside the factory detune. He said Jaguar detunes the STR for reliability and emissions. Plus later model STR were given even more restritive detunes. He felt the 03's ECU's were given more ***** than later models ECU's.
 
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Old May 25, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bfsgross
Riski, I failed to mention Phil said red line issues have been resolved with his tune due to the ECU willing to adjust outside the factory detune. He said Jaguar detunes the STR for reliability and emissions. Plus later model STR were given even more restritive detunes. He felt the 03's ECU's were given more ***** than later models ECU's.
Kind of an odd statement, considering the later models had 10 more HP than the earlier models.
 
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Old May 25, 2010 | 08:50 AM
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I have been to the Eurotek website many times?? Maybe I missed this but where is the dyno numbers that Riski asked about?? The dyno charts shown are for other cars? No STR?? He has a chart of power increases but no dyno charts??
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Old May 25, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MyBlackCat
Kind of an odd statement, considering the later models had 10 more HP than the earlier models.
It's not at all certain that they do. Apparently the way HP were measured and quoted changed.
 
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Old May 25, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jagv8
It's not at all certain that they do. Apparently the way HP were measured and quoted changed.
Yes you are correct.
The way I have interpreted the new measurement is on the conservative side. They (Gov)want to show lower HP numbers for many factors.IMHO I draw this conclusion after much research on the subject.
We all can make our own decisions on this subject.
Leads to a moot point discussion with no right or wrong answer.
 
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Old May 25, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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You should ask if there are willing to dyno tune the cars not just over the shelf tunes
 
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Old May 25, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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Yes!!!!!
 
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Old May 25, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Black Cat, I agree, 06 STR's recieved VVCT and were rated 10 more hp. What the ECU and TCM are programmed to do with the 10 hp is another story and one of the primary issues we're trying to resolve.
 
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Old May 25, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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Default Euro Tek Dyno #'s

ClubAirth, go to website and open section under tuned cars or what ever? Listed first are the stock 3's then scroll down to performace tuned #'s. The STR is on both the stock power list and after tune list.
 
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Old May 25, 2010 | 11:36 AM
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Yea but it is not dyno numbers which matter.....flywheel numbers mean sh it to me haha
 
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Old May 25, 2010 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Riski
Yea but it is not dyno numbers which matter.....flywheel numbers mean sh it to me haha
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Old May 25, 2010 | 02:08 PM
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Thanks bsfgross but the only Jaguar chart I find is for a 2001 XJR and it's not labeled so I can tell if it's stock or not?? 370 ft-lbs max I think and it's labeled "after supercharger install". The XJR is factory super charged??
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