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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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Default Last round-up. What to check B4 the warranty expires.

So maybe this exists already out there and if so just point me in the right direction and we can delete this thread. But ... in case it doesn't:

I spent a fair amount of time before purchase checking for known issues with these cars and then got a few surprises after I bought the car but the good news for me was that I got almost a years worth of select edition warranty with the car. I've read so many threads about so many issues I thought a brief summary of each issues with even a link to the discussion threads? Make suggestions guys.

So my warranty is going to run out in a couple of months and I thought I'd see it we could generate a list of what should be looked at. Which recalls are important to verify etc.

I thought I'd just re-post the submissions over time here in this first post on the thread as folks make contributions to the thread?

Sound like a good idea?

Summary list of issues:

tranny cooler lines

rear stabilizer links and tie rods. (MIGHT NOT BE COVERED)
It seems they are not. https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=46937

underhood fabric pad

plastic coolant expansion tank
Any Coolant leaks (including under supercharger) - pressure test the car independently if you have too.
Follow the small hose on the filler neck nipple to its other end and check the nipple on the rad/thermostat hose assy. (Maybe different on the V-8's but they probably have some version of the $200 rad/therm hose asy that has the problem)


HID headlamps. Hard to miss this problem though (saggy ****) ...

"The LURCH" need to identify latest update #

DCCV (heater control) signs of external leakage.

ZF Trans Sleeve leak

A/C Compressor condition. Is this really a know big issues on these cars???????

Any cracked interior wood panels

Fuel door latch

AC compressor failure.

05 STR with Park Brake Fault message & park brake locked tight.
What & where is the "EPB"? We've also been told by non-jag diagnostic tech that there is a recall on 05 STR Park Brake Modules?
The EPB has a habit of failing - either the motor or module (or both) - with scary messages, lights and sometimes the park brake locked on. No way at all should a critical item such as the EPB ever fail like that, but it does and quite commonly. (True of the same darn thing on lots of cars, but a common screw up does not make it right.)

look at the rear differential for leaks around the cover and at the output shafts. I didn't notice that one of the output shaft seals was leaking and it was a $400 fix.

Bob, you mentioned in another thread about your fuel guage readings were not quite right (IIRC). A little over a year ago, the jet pump was replaced in mine, the guage was going back and forth between 3/4 and 3/8 full regardless on how much gas was actually in the tank.
Suggest you keep track of yours to see if it's acting funny. The replacement including labor wouild have been $800-1000 without warranty. 2006 3.0

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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Staatsof
So maybe this exists already out there and if so just point me in the right direction and we can delete this thread. But ... in case it doesn't:

I spent a fair amount of time before purchase checking for known issues with these cars and then got a few surprises after I bought the car but the good news for me was that I got almost a years worth of select edition warranty with the car. I've read so many threads about so many issues I thought a brief summary of each issues with even a link to the discussion threads? Make suggestions guys.

So my warranty is going to run out in a couple of months and I thought I'd see it we could generate a list of what should be looked at. Which recalls are important to verify etc.


I thought I'd just re-post the submissions over time here in this first post on the thread as folks make contributions to the thread?

Sound like a good idea?
Have a real close look at your tranny cooler lines.
I just had mine replaced and it seems to be getting much more common mention on here especially 05 and up.
Mine were leaking at the swagged joint with the rubber bend. The leak quickly got worse and forced it into the shop before the fluid dropped to dangerous levels.Wish we could do the old fashioned easy top up.

Of course due to it being pipe with rubber, the ext warranty did not cover it.
Search for this issue and you will be surprised by the amount of cars with a slight leak or failure like mine.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 10:52 AM
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The behaviour of the fuel gauge, if it troubles you. I keep meaning to watch mine and note when it drops to 3/4 but it's just not a gauge I watch

Oh, and the **** EPB. Whether it's 100% working right.

I'm not gonna mention headlights as you're very aware of them!
 
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Examine your rear stabilizer links and tie rods. Those rubber boots and bushings tend to crush and warp on every one of these cars. Thanks to Rick (joycesjag) cluing me in on this issue, I had the dealership replace these components under the factory warranty in May 2009. Thus far, the new components are holding up fairly well....

The underhood fabric pad is another sore spot. They tend to shrink and tear away from their mounting pins. I also had the dealership replace this pad under the factory warranty....

Don't forget the plastic coolant expansion tank. The hose nipples get brittle and crack off, so add this lousy component to the list. Get it replaced under warranty if you haven't already....
 
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 01:40 PM
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Oh, and the **** EPB. Whether it's 100% working right.
Elaborate ???
 
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 03:04 PM
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DCCV signs of external leakage.
ZF Trans Sleeve leak
A/C Compressor condition
Any Coolant leaks (including under supercharger) - pressure test the car independently if you have too.
Any cracked interior wood panels

I'm sure I'll come up with more.

Take care,

George
 
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Staatsof
Elaborate ???
The **** EPB has a habit of failing - either the motor or module (or both) - with scary messages, lights and sometimes the park brake locked on. No way at all should a critical item such as the EPB ever fail like that, but it does and quite commonly. (True of the same darn thing on lots of cars, but a common screw up does not make it right.)
 
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 07:14 PM
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Fuel door latch
George's post would catch it: Whilst verifying your expansion tank is good, follow the small hose on the filler neck nipple to its other end and check the nipple on the rad/thermostat hose assy. (Maybe different on the V-8's but they probably have some version of the $200 rad/therm hose asy that has the problem)
 
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Old Feb 11, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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Bob,

An "aggressive" pressure test of the coolant system, will bring any about to happen leaks to the surface.

Take care,

George
 
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 08:33 AM
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Bob,

An "aggressive" pressure test of the coolant system, will bring any about to happen leaks to the surface.

Take care,

George
I may have to do just that George. They found nada once again.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Staatsof
rear stabilizer links and tie rods.
FWIW I was told the rear tie rod/stabilizer bushings aren't covered unless the metal parts are somehow failing. My bushings are crumbling, but they won't be covered under the Select Edition Warranty.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by cacloss
FWIW I was told the rear tie rod/stabilizer bushings aren't covered unless the metal parts are somehow failing. My bushings are crumbling, but they won't be covered under the Select Edition Warranty.
Anyone had these covered by Select Edtion?
 
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Originally Posted by Staatsof
I may have to do just that George. They found nada once again.
With your mileage and the infrequency of use, the parts may just not be at the position where they are ready to fail yet.

Good luck.

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Originally Posted by Staatsof
Anyone had these covered by Select Edtion?

Nope. I had these replaced last Dec and checked the Select Edition warranty. They weren't covered. Then Brutal checked/confirmed this to be true. There's a whole thread on the cost of replacement of these in December. See:

https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=46937
 
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Old Feb 12, 2011 | 10:49 AM
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Bob,

The "golden" rule with the "Select Edition" warranty is the following are excluded: service wear items (brakes, wipers, suspension bushings) ANY exterior mounted rubber (weather strip, trim, and yes rubber lines and hoses), and finally any trim component (chrome trim, interior trim). So, the peeling door handles or cracked wood trim would not be covered. Neither would any failing suspension bushings... Now technically, because they are both rubber and metal, your dealer may work with you if the trans lines are leaking. Mine were just seeping. I was freaking a little when we had it on the lift. I was basically freaking because of the size of the job and I knew rubber lines were not covered. We decided not to repair them because of all the disassembly that was involved...But... they said they would cover them if they actually started leaking. They (service manager and tech ) said it would be covered since it was the metal part of the line that was causing the leak..

So, it really depends on the dealer and how willing they are to "go to bat" for you..
 
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Bob,

Per your question on whether the compressor is a known failure issue, I had to replace ours last May. It was slowly dying and could not cool the cabin once the outside temperature rose above 80 degrees or so. Since then, several others here have had to replace their compressors as well. And several others have not replaced their compressors yet, but they report a green-colored oily substance covering the fittings of their compressors when they've had their belly pans off for routine maintenance. That green substance indicates leaking compressor oil and possibly refrigerant. Jaguar adds a green dye to make it easier to spot leaks....

So compressor problems on S-Types may be more common than you initially thought. But the types of problems within the compressor could be different. In our car's case, the bearings were failing meaning a new compressor was required. I could hear those failing bearings using my mechanic's stethoscope. In other cases, the green dye in leaking oil may be showing up simply because the compressor's O-rings have begun to fail and maybe the bearings are still okay. Hard to say for sure without more evidence here. But you definitely want to keep an eye and an ear on your compressor as you remove your belly pan to do routine maintenance....
 

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Originally Posted by jagv8
The **** EPB has a habit of failing - either the motor or module (or both) - with scary messages, lights and sometimes the park brake locked on. No way at all should a critical item such as the EPB ever fail like that, but it does and quite commonly. (True of the same darn thing on lots of cars, but a common screw up does not make it right.)
05 STR with Park Brake Fault message & park brake locked tight.
What & where is the "EPB"? We've also been told by non-jag diagnostic tech that there is a recall on 05 STR Park Brake Modules??
 

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Right side of the boot (trunk) behind the carpet trim. Roughly, above the battery. At your year I think it may be a more nearly square module than mine (which is rectangular but not square, as I recall). If you're good at electrical you can unplug it and power the motor it would drive to see if the brakes can be powered off.

Someone posted about the module change recently. Try the FAQ below.

Wait: first thing is to see if it will sort itself out. The FAQs mention recalibrating the EPB. Disconnect battery, then reconnect and see if the FAQ thing works. Much better than powering things yourself.
 

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Bob,

Per your question on whether the compressor is a known failure issue, I had to replace ours last May. It was slowly dying and could not cool the cabin once the outside temperature rose above 80 degrees or so. Since then, several others here have had to replace their compressors as well. And several others have not replaced their compressors yet, but they report a green-colored oily substance covering the fittings of their compressors when they've had their belly pans off for routine maintenance. That green substance indicates leaking compressor oil and possibly refrigerant. Jaguar adds a green dye to make it easier to spot leaks....

So compressor problems on S-Types may be more common than you initially thought. But the types of problems within the compressor could be different. In our car's case, the bearings were failing meaning a new compressor was required. I could hear those failing bearings using my mechanic's stethoscope. In other cases, the green dye in leaking oil may be showing up simply because the compressor's O-rings have begun to fail and maybe the bearings are still okay. Hard to say for sure without more evidence here. But you definitely want to keep an eye and an ear on your compressor as you remove your belly pan to do routine maintenance....
...Question about leaking A/C compressor oil, would it hurt to use a STOP LEak for the A/c compressor on our S types? There was a one product can't remember the name on the top of my head but it work like a miracle drug, it had the compressor oil mixed in with the freeon. But it did work to seal up the oil leak in the A/c compressor in my E320 Merc.
 
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Originally Posted by jag79
...Question about leaking A/C compressor oil, would it hurt to use a STOP LEak for the A/c compressor on our S types? There was a one product can't remember the name on the top of my head but it work like a miracle drug, it had the compressor oil mixed in with the freeon. But it did work to seal up the oil leak in the A/c compressor in my E320 Merc.
Use ANY stop leak product at your own risk..
 
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