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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 03:40 PM
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I am trying to take off the outer CV assembly from a 2001 S-Type 4.0 half shaft.

From reading instructions in this forum am I correct in thinking that I need to
force it off by hammering at right angles away from the inner CV joint?

Obviously this will destroy the C clip and I hope it will not damage the shaft splines.

I do not see any access to the C clip that holds the outer assembly on the splines of the shaft.
 

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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 06:45 PM
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Wow, haven't done this one in a while. If I remember I tugged the outer cv axle straight out with a slide hammer.

The clip came out undamaged on the CV shaft even though I installed a new clip with the replacement CV.

Banging the outer CV at right angles doesn't sound right. What does JTIS say?
 
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 07:17 PM
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Several years ago when I was researching and taking apart Jaguar rear axles, I found that I purchased a few E-bay axles where the clip would not compress. No matter how hard I tried using a slide hammer tube the shaft wouldn't come out. I finally put the axle in a 30 ton press. I would load up the shaft then hit it with a sledge hammer. Still no separation. Eventually the splines exploded off of the shaft where the clip was frozen on the shaft. I called up one of the big axle refurbishing companies about the problems and they stated they have about 20-30% of Jaguar and Lincoln LS half shaft that don't separate.
If you can't get the shaft to separate after 4-5 bangs in a slide tube, chances are that the clip is corroded or debris is in the groove and you will never get it apart.
 

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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 08:51 PM
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Wow, haven't done this one in a while. If I remember I tugged the outer cv axle straight out with a slide hammer.

The clip came out undamaged on the CV shaft even though I installed a new clip with the replacement CV.

Banging the outer CV at right angles doesn't sound right. What does JTIS say?
I did not mean at a right angle I meant with everything dead straight!

I will give it a go and hope the clip is not rusted in place.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jackra_1
I did not mean at a right angle I meant with everything dead straight!

I will give it a go and hope the clip is not rusted in place.
Gotcha

Try pushing the CV joint in a tad before exerting force outward.

Good Luck. I guess I lucked out with mine...
 
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 06:27 AM
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The CV joint is perfectly good. I am swapping a 2005 XJR CV joint in place of it so I have to do this four times to build two half shafts.

Building an LSD out of a 2001 S-Type 4.0 differential for my 2005 XJR.
 
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Originally Posted by jackra_1
The CV joint is perfectly good. I am swapping a 2005 XJR CV joint in place of it so I have to do this four times to build two half shafts.

Building an LSD out of a 2001 S-Type 4.0 differential for my 2005 XJR.
Please post pictures of your progress/process.

Have you confirmed that your 05 CV joint fits on the 2001 splined shaft? (I hope it does fit) I found out that there are several different versions of 1/2 shafts and that the 1/2 shaft spline counts can be different. I have 3 different versions of the CV joints that have a different number and size of ball bearings. Somewhere on this forum or the LVC forum there was a discussion about which one was stronger along with pictures.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Tijoe
Please post pictures of your progress/process.

Have you confirmed that your 05 CV joint fits on the 2001 splined shaft? (I hope it does fit) I found out that there are several different versions of 1/2 shafts and that the 1/2 shaft spline counts can be different. I have 3 different versions of the CV joints that have a different number and size of ball bearings. Somewhere on this forum or the LVC forum there was a discussion about which one was stronger along with pictures.
I have not confirmed this rather key "issue" as yet and it does worry me.

Information on this forum indicated that the S-Type 4.0 half shafts would fit directly. Already confirmed that is NOT the case!

Also discovered that for the same model year XJR the half shafts can either have the raised teeth or the indented slots on the reluctor ring. The raised teeth reluctor ring has a larger diameter than the indented ring.

I have done a lot of research however have not answered all my questions.

It is a trial and error program!

I really wanted a Quaife which would have been so much easier however the particular type is no longer made by Quaife and they sold their inventory to some individual in the UK. Despite that several sites still advertise it as available but cannot deliver when I speak to them.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 11:38 AM
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I managed to finally get the outer CV assembly off the half shaft. It took a lot longer than I expected and some real brute force.
The circlip has a round cross section which surprised me and is undamaged.

I used a wedge two pronged type ball joint separator and a large hammer with the half shaft in a vice. I left a small gap between the edge of the vice and the CV race in which I placed the ball joint separator.
The vice clamped on the main shaft and not the section inside the flexible cover.

Using this method I put some stress on the ***** in the race and I do not want to do this when I take off the XJR outer CV assembly so have to find something that wraps the shaft adjacent to the splines so I do not pressure the ***** in their socket I will post pics when I have finished.

So have to hope the splines match up!
 
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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 05:21 PM
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So managed to get the outer CV assembly off the XJR half shaft and it fits the S-Type half shaft so very pleased about that!

I made a "collar" from a 3/4" length of chrome tubing that I had. Cut it in half and used a screw type hose clamp to hold it in place around the half shaft adjacent to the splines inside the race.
Then used the same technique in the previous post with the vice but this time the pressure was on the collar and not the race. Some heavy bangs with a hammer and off it came.

The Ford LSD I have on order is still a few weeks out.

When all is done will post pics of the process.
 
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Old Jan 6, 2017 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Tijoe
Please post pictures of your progress/process.

Have you confirmed that your 05 CV joint fits on the 2001 splined shaft? (I hope it does fit) I found out that there are several different versions of 1/2 shafts and that the 1/2 shaft spline counts can be different. I have 3 different versions of the CV joints that have a different number and size of ball bearings. Somewhere on this forum or the LVC forum there was a discussion about which one was stronger along with pictures.
I remember a post a while ago about that issue and maybe it was your post where you had to try several times before you got the correct match?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2017 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by jackra_1
I remember a post a while ago about that issue and maybe it was your post where you had to try several times before you got the correct match?
Here is my thread on the LVC forum that documented my research on axles.
My focus was to make a set of high HP axles that would hold up to 500+ HP.
My complete rear end on my conversion car ended up having my own axles made. You might get some good information that might help.

500+ HP rear Axles?
 
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