P0171 and P0174
Stop throwing parts at it!! Why were all those things changed?
You must work with the codes or you are just shooting in the dark.
Have you checked for codes? Have you cleared any codes you found and did any codes come back after you did this?
What's a shake test?
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You must work with the codes or you are just shooting in the dark.
Have you checked for codes? Have you cleared any codes you found and did any codes come back after you did this?
What's a shake test?
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I'm lost after so many posts - do you have both of the lean codes and what are the LTFT values (engine hot, parked, per bank) at 2500rpm and idle?
You've spent probably 10x, maybe 50x, cost of an OBD tool with live data.
You've spent probably 10x, maybe 50x, cost of an OBD tool with live data.
Sorry Hombre but I have not seen any codes? So I am a bit lost too. You have done some troubleshooting but it has not worked because we are not sure where the problem lies.
Any chance of getting the codes read? Changing parts without knowing why is usually an expensive and inefficient way to fix it.
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Any chance of getting the codes read? Changing parts without knowing why is usually an expensive and inefficient way to fix it.
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I installed a new MAF sensor. While doing so I checked out the air box and discovered the damage in the photo to the lower air box assembly. I'm sure it was damaged by the local garage that changed the filter. They didn't say a word. Could this cause a lean condition? I suspect so but I'm asking for a second opinion. Here are my latest LT FTRM 1/2 readings at idle and 2500 revs.
1 at idle. 7.0 At 2500 revs. 4.6
2. At idle 5.4 At 2500 revs 5.4
MAF. .528 1.83
1 at idle. 7.0 At 2500 revs. 4.6
2. At idle 5.4 At 2500 revs 5.4
MAF. .528 1.83
Last edited by nail24fac; Dec 7, 2013 at 03:16 PM.
No it's still metered air but it is sucking in hot engine compartment air instead of thru the factory fresh air setup. Should not set a code but definitely fix it.
It's a shame when the repair guy does more damage than he fixes!
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It's a shame when the repair guy does more damage than he fixes!
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Yes both banks lean, p0174 and p0171. Eml and restrict perform light comes on now only after a tank fillup, before changing the maf some parts it came on while driving the car often not like now, after a tank fillup. As the smoke test didn't show any vacuum leak, I am wondering that purge valve can be the problem? Fuel trims are a bit high aprox 10 %... Please advise!!!!!!?
Hi , codes are p0174 and p0171, now, AFTER, changing this parts lean codes for both banks, (Eml and restrict perform) only comes on after a tank fillup, so I am wondering if there can be something related to purge valve or ???
Fuel trims are a bit high, aprox 10%
Fuel trims are a bit high, aprox 10%
BTW, the o-ring on the MAF sensor was old and had shrunk. Not sure it was a good seal. This problem came about immediately following a 80,000 mile check and oil change.
Last edited by nail24fac; Dec 9, 2013 at 08:20 AM.
Any time now. A few drives and they'll have moved. If you really want to force it, disconnect the battery then after a few drives check for no codes but P1111 and check the LTFTs.








