Rough Idle and Surging
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Rough Idle and Surging
Got an issue with my '06 STR. Whe I go to start it up it will have a rough idle and go up to about 1200 RPM. This only lasts for about 20 seconds then it starts to work it's way back down to 600 RPM and is smooth as ever. From 1200 back down to 600 takes maybe 70-80 seconds. I've also noticed I have a bit of a surge while I'm driving between 40-45 MPH at a steady pace. Not much, maybe 100 RPM, just enough for me to barely feel it. No check engine light.
Would Ethanol make this happen?
Would Ethanol make this happen?
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Absolutely not. Don't believe even 1% of the myths you hear. My non-R will do the stumble thing if I've shuffled it in and out of the drive a few times without going for a proper drive.
The RPM surge at speed sounds like a lockup issue with the torque converter. There's been much discussion on this including some TSBs.
The RPM surge at speed sounds like a lockup issue with the torque converter. There's been much discussion on this including some TSBs.
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Both issues sound related to a intermitient misfiring coil.
Not an expert on the 03+ STR but the idle quality upon start up could also be related to a dirty or malfunctioning idle air control valve. I would point towards the pintle having built up carbon on it affecting idle quality upon start up.
Not an expert on the 03+ STR but the idle quality upon start up could also be related to a dirty or malfunctioning idle air control valve. I would point towards the pintle having built up carbon on it affecting idle quality upon start up.
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The issue might be unmetered air finding its way into the intake system. My suggestions are to...
Remove the plastic engine cover and check the intake clamping areas 1) near mass air flow (MAF) sensor 2) front of silver aluminum oval air intake 3) near firewall, back of silver aluminum oval air intake. The third point has two screws and typically are accessed from the driver's side (US).
If no clamps are loose, next check for intake system leaks/cracks by lightly spraying water around all areas of the air intake system. Start misting just after the MAF sensor (not on the MAF) and slowly make your way to the firewall. If at anytime the engine chugs as you are spraying, you likely have located an air leak.
- Bad tank of gas?
- Any work recently done in car's engine bay area?
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Indeed, if someone is asking a question that has been answered ad nauseum recently, the most knowledgable, qualified and experienced members just might not feel like repeating themselves for the tenth time.
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The issue might be unmetered air finding its way into the intake system. My suggestions are to...
Remove the plastic engine cover and check the intake clamping areas 1) near mass air flow (MAF) sensor 2) front of silver aluminum oval air intake 3) near firewall, back of silver aluminum oval air intake. The third point has the two screws and typically are accessed from the driver's side (US).
If no clamps are loose, next check for intake system leaks/cracks by lightly spraying water around all areas of the air intake system. Start misting just after the MAF sensor (not on the MAF) and slowly make your way to the firewall. If at anytime the engine chugs as you are spraying, you likely have located a air leak.
- Bad tank of gas?
- Any work recently done in car's engine bay area?
BTW.....very respectable 1/4 mile time!!!
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Thanks for the thumbs up on the 1/4 mile time.
I recently installed an upper 2.6" sc pulley and I am looking forward to making some new dyno runs runs as well as some 1/4 mile passes in cool air. Cool air (and better yet, cold air and low humidity) really makes these cars fly. I believe the dyno will prove what I feel and what has been said by others -- most of the power increase is at lower rpms and not much is gained in our high rev range with pulley swaps.
I recently installed an upper 2.6" sc pulley and I am looking forward to making some new dyno runs runs as well as some 1/4 mile passes in cool air. Cool air (and better yet, cold air and low humidity) really makes these cars fly. I believe the dyno will prove what I feel and what has been said by others -- most of the power increase is at lower rpms and not much is gained in our high rev range with pulley swaps.
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No- Tony is right, we are mean. My neighbour across the street is an 85 year old widow. After cutting her grass and taking out her trash, I was too tired to finish cleaning the eaves troughs but promised that I will do it tomorrow. I really felt bad and am sure I will burn in hell, but so be it.
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