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Old Jan 17, 2017 | 04:44 PM
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Premium for me works out to 83.92yen / liter...
when I use the discount 54.05 / liter
Wow, that is cheap. Impressively so. I must see if you can rent XJSs (XJSes?) in the States so I can do so next time and just enjoy burning fuel....
 
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Old Jan 17, 2017 | 06:15 PM
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Hi Grant

AAV Removal is ingenious!

I'll know what to do if mine packs up

But also need to find that Pre-He Blanking Plate.
a pic is worth a thousand words,,!

my AAV removed 22yrs ago! and the sensor is for my DIGITAL TEMP gage, reads in 2* increments.

its on the B bank rear of head, supposedly the hottest part of cooling system!
 
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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 03:19 AM
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Hi Ron

So you just blank if off then?

That looks too easy!
 
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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 03:24 AM
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I think, however, something like that might be better bought on a visit to the States or the UK, where it won't cost me hundreds in shipping. I can definitely get quality metric tools here, easily. I rather like the look of those bendable ratchet wrenches posted earlier, too. I'm sure I've seen something similar here, if not terribly cheap.

Incidentally, high-octane petrol (100 RON I believe) here costs about EUR 1.16 a litre (140 yen a litre). How does that compare to other places?

Got a laugh at the idea that my wife would actually buy me presents, however....
Comparisson: 1l of 100 RON costs currently around €1.47-1.53 herr at the moment... So that would be something like ¥200 or so...
 
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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Daim
Comparisson: 1l of 100 RON costs currently around €1.47-1.53 herr at the moment... So that would be something like ¥200 or so...
Our 98RON today is $1.55/ltr, and near the bottom of the price war cycle we have going on.

It will be $1.68/ltr in a few days.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 11:58 AM
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local price per US gallon, 93oct. US octane, average $2,00.$2.15 usd.
 

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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 12:02 PM
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I filled up last night with the discount I put 20.7 gallons in the tank and one in a gas can
cost me 39.88 US for 22 gallons
about 4523 yen...
 
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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Grant Francis
Our 98RON today is $1.55/ltr, and near the bottom of the price war cycle we have going on.

It will be $1.68/ltr in a few days.
I assume you mean AU$ rather than US$?

That would convert to around €1.19 for your $1.68...

Or my price would be AU$2.17...

I think I live rather expensive when it comes to fuel but on the other hand: I drive with LPG in my V8 so I couldn't care much really
 
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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 12:24 PM
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OB and I are frothing at the mouth. 30 quid in Florida for a tankful! That is about 30% of the UK price!
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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 03:01 PM
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I'm probably the happiest here. 98euro oct. is 1 ltr- 60 cents, gallon is $2.70
 
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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 03:21 PM
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Too right Greg!

Whenever I fill the Tank up, I always try and avert my eyes from the Petrol Pump gauge, as it doesn't look cool to have beads of sweat dripping off your forehead and mixing with the tears you find are running down your face.

Unless you get off on smacking down £108 pounds for Petrol all in one go, secure in the knowledge that you will be back in a couple of days for some more.



The Up all Night Thirst of a Binge Drinking XJS £108 for a Tankful and seldom lasts more than 4 days!
 
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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 03:25 PM
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Daim

If you take the Engine out you would use even less!
 

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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 03:35 PM
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Daim

I you take the Engine out you would use even less!
Jaguar XJ-S PP - Pedal Power
 
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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by orangeblossom
Too right Greg!




The Up all Night Thirst of a Binge Drinking XJS £108 for a Tankful and seldom lasts more than 4 days!
Is that your average MPG? If so, I only wish I could get that. Around town, with constant stop-starts, I'm lucky to average 12 MPG. Seeing MPG averages under 10 is not unusual. Long cruises on the (fairly) open road have boosted that to 15 MPG, and I'm sure if I had a proper long gentle cruise on an expressway I could manage as much as 18.

I've started wondering if I couldn't replace my trip computer with an analogue clock, as all it does is remind me how much money I'm burning....
 
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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 04:50 PM
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if i'm on a long trip, i just lean out the mixture, while watching the air/fuel ratio gage!

being an N/A engine,it will run a little sluggish, so i just tweak the fuel knob a bit.

seems to be fine for average speeds 65/70 mph, i get around 17/18mpg(US gal.).

for more power,like passing etc. a quick touch for more fuel, and WaLah, all is good!

for all out top speed, i just hit full fuel which is controlled by the GM Map sensor, i rarely run it out past 130 mph tho.

most N/A engines can run very lean at light throttle, NO burned pistons and such, it is a
good thing about the pre HE chamber, at least mine never shows any sign of detonation! it will run acceptable on 87 oct. but i like 93oct,USA fuel

at the rich mixture settings the MPG falls thru the floor, like 10mpg, plus it smells ,wifey
not happy,especially at idle!
 
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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 07:07 PM
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Hi Someday

17.2 was (achieved!) on one of my favorite urban drives on an almost deserted road but overall my fuel consumption is much the same as yours.

More often than not I get 12mpg or sometimes as much as 15mpg but and 'here's the thing' I never worry about the Fuel Consumption and never ever drive her with Economy in mind.

I drive her to enjoy her and I couldn't care less how much Petrol I use and I don't use the cheap stuff either.

Always Tesco Momentum which is 99 Ron, as I equate anything less than that to feeding my Car Junk Food.

If I wanted to economize and save a bit 'make that a lot of Money' I would use my Merc which is my daily driver but where's the Fun in that.

If you can't afford to fill her up with Petrol and enjoy her, for the Car She is, then you may as well save your Money and go and buy something else.

In the Summer I easily Spend £200 a Week on Petrol and that is just going out 'Tripping' where as far as I'm concerned the experience alone is worth every Penny or should that be Pound?

Its not that I am Mega Rich, its more that I economize in lots of other ways by not wasting it on things that don't really matter.

So no more Cafe Latte's and rubbish store bought Cake for the GF at £5 per time and I buy all my Clothes from Charity Shops, no BS that's absolutely True.

Last year 2016, I picked up a Pair of 'Churches Handmade Loafers' in almost as new Condition that would normally cost 'North' of £200 for just £5.

But my biggest bargain last year was a Leather Jacket, they were asking £25 and I offered £15, they said No, so then I upped my offer to £20.

They still said No, so I walked! but that didn't work either.

But I did remember the Label that was inside the Collar and I Googled it when I got home, only to find that this was a leather Jacket by Paris designer Alexandre Mattiussi that cost £3,100! OMG!

And I'd left it behind for a measly £25! (I wanted to cry my eyes out!) and they were closed, so I couldn't go back and get it.

So at 7o/c the following day, after a night with no sleep, I was Camped out on their doorstep waiting for it to open and praying they hadn't sold it.

But when I went to the rail where it was it wasn't there anymore, so trying not to sound desperate and not like I was begging (which I was) I asked them where the Leather Jacket was and they didn't know.

But I eventually found it, in one of the small changing rooms, where someone must have tried it on after I had left but like me at the time, didn't know what it was.

So I picked it up and took it to the counter, slapped my 25 quid on the deck, didn't bother to hang about and wait for a receipt, then giving them a cheery wave I walked and then I ran.

Some things are just meant to be.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 08:13 PM
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I prefer to look at the operating time and gallons only. By that measure it's a great bargain!

Makes the local go cart track look like a huge rip off! I just head to my favorite road and smile. I do think that space the trip compy takes up would be better used for gauges or switches though.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2017 | 10:47 PM
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Let's hope that leather jacket wasn't a fake - if not, you got a hell of a bargain, OB (actually, you should put it on eBay or whatever advertised as the brand name, make XX amount of quid, and buy another 25 quid leather jacket with some of your profit). I buy some things at second-hand shops like that, but not clothes (chances of fitting: somewhere hovering near zero). Just today I picked up a nice white leather sofa for just $100 (or so) for my office at the university. A minor bit of discolouration and a wee gouge or two? Not a worry. I want something I can put my boots on, anyway....

I'm not worried about the cost as such - I waited thirty years until my income levels were high enough to be able to afford both fuel and repairs without blinking (too much, at least). I was mainly wondering if I was getting notably poor mileage or not. It's a given that there's going to be fewer places to let her have her head in Japan than even in the UK (I have fond memories of booting along some lovely rural B roads at 100 kph - a road where the limit would be 40 in Japan), so I knew mileage wouldn't be great. It's just hard to know what a ballpark figure should be. So it's nice to know she's working fine in that respect.

Also my other car (the shopping cart) is a tiny 660 cc thing that is about the size of the Jag's engine and probably weighs less. Not only does it sip fuel like a miser, I don't take it anywhere to stretch its legs, so the fuel gauge barely moves for weeks.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 01:07 AM
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SD, your MPG sounds a bit low, but you may have all sorts of extra stuff on your engine from the emissions point of view? I get a real world 18+ mpg , 14/15 in traffic. I found that replacing the mechanical fan gave me a noticeable improvement, as did disabling the start-up enrichment timer, as did a new Bell exhaust. But my car is lighter than later models, no seat motors, no cats, no ABS etc etc.
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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 01:57 AM
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I'd imagine that there's quite the range of emissions stuff on my engine. I would imagine that the emissions requirements for an ancient V12 to meet even in the early 1990s would have been stringent. I know it has the air pump to enrich (?) the mixture when starting out, for example. It's got cats too, as well as ABS, seat motors, etc. And the fan is still mechanical.

But I think the main issue is simply that the car is lucky to average 20 miles per hour. And that's with two semi-decent open runs increasing that average. Using the instant readout thing on the trip computer, it's pretty common to see 18 mpg or better when cruising steadily without climbing hills or anything.
 
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