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How I Feel Looking at the V12....

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Old 01-13-2017, 02:14 AM
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Talking How I Feel Looking at the V12....

In the engine bay, no one can hear you scream....
 
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Old 01-13-2017, 03:02 AM
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You got that right!!! Precisely how I feel!
 
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Yep,

Just takes your breath away, and then the warm and fuzzies take over.
 
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I don't feel that. I feel like Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible... Imagine the scene where he is let down from the roof on a wire and isn't allowed to touch the floor... That is how I feel or better felt when I opened my bonnet the first time...
 
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Old 01-13-2017, 04:49 AM
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That's a really nice picture, and the photoshopping is also well done.
May we see the engine picture without the monster ?
 
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Old 01-13-2017, 05:13 AM
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Sure, no problem. Here it is.

Taken with my 8-16 mm ultrawide lens using a Canon 60D. The ultrawide is very sensitive to any missed verticals, and I was holding it with my arm stretched over the engine, so it's not quite straight unfortunately.

Daim: Yeah, there's definitely a lot of that in there. Though when I first saw the engine, there was also a definite aspect of something like the Grand Canyon - awesome, vast, ancient, and deep....
 
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My first impression was similar. Add to the visual the knowledge that it was not running, and that I was going to buy it...

Like scene from Indiana Jones. Looking down into a cobra pit with a beautiful red jewel barely visible at the bottom. And I was going to try to take it!

My first goal was to make it run, then to make it run well, and then to make that V12 look like it was being served up at a posh restaurant. An all-aluminum morsel gleaming in the middle a glossy red plate.

Its not there yet, but I can see it coming as I peel off layers of grime, government hoses, unnecessary baubles and electrical chains. It will gleam.
 
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The old V12 Jaguar XJS joke was, apparently, about the factory quality control component completeness test. A large bottle of water was poured over each V12 installation, bonnet open. If any came out of the bottom of the car it had to go back on the line to have the missing parts fitted.
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Looking at it as a whole is quite overwelming. Once you break it down to each engine system it's alot easier to understand. Still a overwelming but easier.
 
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i think the V12 is beautiful! just so simple.LOL.

even looks beautiful when NAKED!
 
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It looks daunting, but it's really simple once you get to know what everything is. Just lots of it, but it's not complex.
 
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Your engine is an interesting hybrid between the earlier 5.3's and the later 6.0's. You have the intake manifolds with the logo, the cruise actuator like a 6.0, but the older 5.3 style AC compressor and air filter boxes.

Some things are different to what I'm used to, like the absence of the fuel cooler on the suction side AC hose. There are a couple of electrical components that I have not seen before either, obviously market/ emission spec specific.
 
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Originally Posted by ronbros
i think the V12 is beautiful! just so simple.LOL.

even looks beautiful when NAKED!
Totally agreed Ron!

I like it when engineering is a pleasing sight.
 
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I think its intimidating at first glance. Repairs/ maintenance work very time consuming I found out . Not like the old V8's
 
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Beautiful photography, and a very well done Photoshop.

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Looking at it as a whole is quite overwelming. Once you break it down to each engine system it's alot easier to understand. Still a overwelming but easier.
That about says it all, at least for me.
Once you start to understand what's-what and how it works (very time consuming), it is actually bloody simple, just a lot.
 
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Originally Posted by Jagboi64
There are a couple of electrical components that I have not seen before either, obviously market/ emission spec specific.
Interesting. Quite likely true. Which ones did you notice? Japan has some pretty strict emissions testing, so I assume they're there for that.
 
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Originally Posted by ericjansen
Once you start to understand what's-what and how it works (very time consuming), it is actually bloody simple, just a lot.
That's what I gather from comments. The main difficulties are:
1. Having to remove several things to get at anything else.
2. Twelve of everything
3. Cramped spaces (related to 1. above)
The engine itself is apparently very old-school simple. I'm still learning just what is what, however.
 
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Originally Posted by Some Day, Some Day
Interesting. Quite likely true. Which ones did you notice? Japan has some pretty strict emissions testing, so I assume they're there for that.
The thing with the 2 wires on the right side air box, directly above the 2 of "V12" on the intake manifold plaque in the photo, and the red thing at the rear of the left intake manifold with the orange wire.

Your air injection check valve (right side of the engine, next to the fuel rail, just forward of the polished crossover tube) is in a much easier to get to place than mine! I have 2, at the back of the engine and partially buried. They are GM parts, so cheap here.
 

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Originally Posted by Some Day, Some Day
That's what I gather from comments. The main difficulties are:
1. Having to remove several things to get at anything else.
Although one of the joys is practically everything is on top. Once you get below the intake manifolds there is almost nothing there except the exhaust pipes.
 
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That's interesting. Two of those different things seem to be connected to air quality and thus, one assumes, emissions - the air box wires are presumably some sort of sensor. No idea what the red/orange thing is. I'll take a closer look next time I have the bonnet up to see where they go.

Nice to know that not too much is buried in the bowels. What I would really like, and haven't seen even in Haynes or the ROM (unless I missed it) is a diagram of the engine showing what is what. Mind you, it might get excessively complex....
 
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