Given that my car was already raised, I decided to change oil

Undid the bolt at the end of oil pan and drained the oil -- easy.

Then I turned to oil filter. Initially I remember thinking that this filter looks unusually big. Good that I have four different oil filter wrenches, of different sizes. Two of them are even adjustable. So far I never came across a filter that I was not able to tackle with at least one of them...

However I was quickly disappointed because none of them fit -- they were all too small! And, of course, the filter was put in too tight and I could not unscrew it by hand.

Even more surprising is that the replacement oil filter I ordered appears to be much smaller. The filter I got is Bosch 72209WS. Its diameter is about 74mm. The one I currently have on the car is about 93mm in diameter, much bigger.

Is the monster filter currently in the car correct size? Which would mean that the replacement filter I got is too small and I need to reorder?

 

Does anybody know what size of the oil filter wrench I need to get v12 filter out? 93mm? 94mm? I measured something close to 93mm while on back under the car. But I am not sure how precise that measurement is.

Anybody has the correct size wrench and can confirm?

 

I have one of these

Husky Universal 3-Jaw Oil Filter Wrench-HU3JFW - The Home Depot

and it works well. It will squash the filter ifs its too tight but it should get it off

 

I remember a TSB from Jaguar telling us to use a shorter filter to keep the end away from the exhaust.
I don't remember what the TSB number was.

Use the smaller filter and you will be fine.

 

The filters I have on the shelf are Ryco Z133 and 94mm.

The others, Crossland, are 93 and shorter which is good for exhaust clearance, but since we dont have Cats, neither matters.

 

I cant help you much with the filter itself, but as to the wrench - I've had a Snap On strap type filter wrench for about 25 years, bought it when I was in the trucking business. Very universal when it comes to size. The strap type may not be absolutely best for every application, but I've never not been able to use it. Like someone else stated about another wrench earlier, it will crush the filter a little if its very tight, but its always got the filter off for me.

 

Hi V1rok

The Filter that I've always used on my XJS V12 is 93mm X 120mm (approx)



On the left a Jaguar OEM Oil Filter EBC 9658
On the Right a Mann Filter W 930/13
Both are the same size 93mm X 120mm and both fit exactly the same.
You can also see my Oil Filter Chain Wrench which will undo most if not all Car Oil Filters

My Oil Filter on 'Cherry Blossom' was a PIA to undo, so I had to use my Oil Filter Chain Wrench with a 2ft Long Wrench to get it undone.



It took a 2ft Long Wrench to get this Oil Filter Undone.

You can read how I did it

On Page 11. of my 'Cherry Blossom' Restoration Thread: https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...122634/page11/

Where things did not go exactly according to Plan!

 

Never did a filter swap on a Jaguar V12. But on other critters, a lot of them over the decades.


I've a collection of filter wrenches in my "oily" box at one end of my bench.
The strap wrench works most of the time.


But, on occasion, it takes a long "center punch". Rough tech. Use a BFH, drive the punch in and twist.


Carl

 

Screwdriver and hammer... That is the best way to undo an oil filter that is too tight...

 

Screwdriver and hammer? How would this work?

Make an indentation and hammer away counterclockwise?

 

My understanding of that is:

Drive the screwdriver, HUGE SIZE, through the filter, in one side and out the other, thus forming a "T" situation. Rotate the screwdriver and the filter unscews.

A tad hard on the V12, as the exhaust is in the way on one side, and the engine on the other.

I have used a steel strap style for years, and its as fiddly as hell, but doable.

The Caterpiller strap style is probably the best with a "tight as hell" filter.

This also helps calm the day.

 

Grant nearly got it right.

You use a small screw driver, long enough for the shaft to go through the filter. You hit it into the filter amd then just crack the bond. Maybe a quarter of a turn. I have always done my Filters like that. Even on the V12. Fool proof method...

 

I've used the screwdriver method from time-to-time, as needed.

One time, though, I *still* couldn't break the filter free and thought "Oh, brother, now I've really done it. The filter is still stuck but now I can't drive the car!".

Fortunately it eventually broke free. But there was a mild panic for 15 minutes or so.

Cheers
DD

 

Like the moment you drain a diff or something similar, and then cannot undo the fill plug, OOPS.

 

Yeah. Up the proverbial creek! where the h... is the d... paddle ???


I have a longish center punch in a can of hammer drive tools. Great for at least three things.


1. Punch and twist over tightened filters.


2. Mark metal for accurate drilling.


3. Align parts for fastener insertion.


Carl

 

I found that a Purolator PL15317 fits my 94. I use a standard wrench from auto parts store.

 

Getting off track a little but has anyone thought about or installed a remote oil filter ? Convenience is one reason and that location in regard to the exhaust???? I thought about one but no one makes the billet aluminum one anymore. Just those cheapo cast jobs

 

I use Motorcraft FL-2021 filters on the XKR which are easy to find. I tried Purolator filters also and they do not fit right, they bottom out on the housing before sealing right and will eventually leak. Never use a Purolator filter on this car.

I also use a strap wrench on tight filters. I install filters by hand as tight as I can. I never have a problem getting them loose by hand.