I was pretty let down by how lame our X was the first time I was out on ice/snow. One back tire would spin out and it would sit there. Our car does not have DSC and being 2006 does not have a viscous coupler in the transfer case either.

Options:

1) Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) retrofit

2) Rebuilt transfer case with viscous coupling.

3) Both of the above.

I am getting Nokian Hakka Rs put on tomorrow but I still will be considering the above options.

There are a lot of 2003 type transfer cases availble with anywhere from 5000 to 190, 000 miles on them. I would not be afraid to tackle a rebuild, parts are available, plus some good advice on setting up the bearing preload to less than the factory built them with. Bonus picture below is an exploded view of a 2003 X transfer case I bought for $100 just to take apart. The transfer gear left bearing went out which caused the 90 degree gears to shed pieces, which then went through the whole transfer case tearing up everything but the differential gears and the viscous coupling.

 

Sell your 06 and buy an 03... Thank you a million for the exploded view of the transfer case though!!!!

 

Again, thanks for the transfer case photo.

I'm interested in the DSC retrofit for my 06 project car.

Please update this thread as you research.

Does anyone know if we can fit a DSC sensor to our non-dsc steering column?

best regards,

Bill

 

I think the tires are key, but good points on the other lacking features.

 

The trick I heard sometime before, when a wheel is spinning, is to apply the parking brake. I think that is supposed to slow the spinning wheel at which time torque will be directed to other places. Which, after all, is sort of what the DSC does via the anti-lock brakes.

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Winter Tyres + DSC = Win

Last night i drove my X through some thick snow & ice, was effortless.

Driving in snow/ice on summer tyres will always be a problem, regardless of the car or its gadgets...

 

Yeah the car handles extremely well in the snow I live in Midwest with snow and the only problem would be the tires camber issue which is what I still currently have, it makes the car handle like crap otherwise if the camber issue is fixed its really good

 

I tried that and I didn't think it worked too well. What happens is that it puts drag on the rear wheels which transferes power to the front wheels. The front wheels spun out.

I ordered a bunch of manuals from jagdocs.com and will research the DSC retrofit. Putting the DSC parts on would be easy, the electronic end of it might not be so easy. For one the steering angle sensor has to be calibrated. And I'm suspicious the DSC system would have to be activated somehow through IDS/VCM, I don't know how else the DSC dash light would start working, unless the bulb is left out of non-DSC cars.

 

Retrofitted DSC in not an real option. It´s way cheaper to sell your car and buy one with DSC.

Real winter tyres make one hell of a difference to the cars handling. I myself use studded Nokia tyres in winter (btw, i happen to live in Nokia..). RSi works as well on snow but only way to beat ice are studded ones..

Viscous coupled t-case would probably help.

 

If you read the thread I linked the wiring seems to be in place, put in a yaw sensor, steering wheel angle sensor, a DSC ABS pump/module, and a DSC switch. Get the steering wheel angle sensor calibrated... why wouldn't it work?

 

I didn´t say it wouldn´t work. :-)

I was just saying that the parts (even assuming you do the work yourself) are so expensive that it´d probably be cheaper to change car to X-type with DSC. If you find a suitable donor car then things might be different.

I think that Thermo would have some experience on this which I don´t have.

 

Throw some studded tires on your kitty.

The difference will be so amazing, you will not believe it - handling, cornering and braking on ice or snow will feel like you're wearing sandpaper shoes.

Over the last three winters, I have not "broke traction" during any maneuver while driving, not once even once, with the studded snow tires.

(My wife was never impressed with that statement. She'd say "My god, this is North Dakota - it's like driving on an endless golf course. How much trouble can you get into driving across a giant golf course?")

Let me know if you find a road here in North Dakota with some nice corners on it, Jesse.

I'd really like to know what it feels like to take some corners with this car!

 

Snow isn't bad, slush is bad. I've a 2001 X-Type, and while superbly grippy in the winter here (studded tires as well), a slushy corner can be a dangerous surprise.

Also, don't let the AWD make you overconfident. A few days ago I joined a 80km/h road, and started picking up speed on an uphill right-hand bend. It was really smooth and stable, but I was still constantly sliding slightly to the left all the way until the top of the hill.

 

Small world! What is/are "RSi"?

I know of some but they are gravel, other than those the best corners are on/off ramps. Where are you in ND?

 

Having spent the day driving through ice/snow, i think you have no grounds for complaint unless you are running proper winter tyres, mine ate up everything thrown at it today.

 

Probably different names/codes for different market areas..

RSi is a lamelled winter tyres without studs. Probably same as RS.

 

When one of three wheels spin on a AWD I think I have grounds to complain. It's pathetic when only one of four spin.

 

I can't figure out why they ever sold the car without DSC once they changed from the viscous coupling. And I can't figure out how they weren't sued for misrepresentation.

 

It snowed a few inches last night so this morning I took the car out in the north pasture to see how it would do. The tires did make a big difference, I could stop going up hill and restart without spinning out. It will spin out the rear if you really step on it but it is much better.

C5 I agree, DSC should have been standard when the viscous coupling got dropped.

More discussion on this thread; AWD tested in the mud.

 

The Nokian Hakka Rs are awesome. I've never driven a car that was so stable on unplowed snow covered gravel roads, it's like it's on tracks.

The gas mileage went down, but when I got around to checking the shop had the pressure at 31. Now that I'm set up with nitrogen I filled them to 38 front and 35 rear. The mileage jumped up by .5 mpg, and might go up more.