Engine don't start after replacing the old battery
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Engine don't start after replacing the old battery
Hello everyone,
I am new to this forum and I hope I can get some help from you guys. I own a jaguar x-type 2002 and I still love it. 2 weeks ago one day morning when I wanted to go to work the starter didn't kick in and I thought that should be the better problem. So I bought a new battery yesterday and replaced the old one. After I tried to start the engine I was surprised to see that engine can not fire up. It was working flawlessly before I replaced the battery. You guys have any idea what could go wrong during the battery replacement. I took the video so you can see the exact problem:
https://youtu.be/Nx1GYUIlfso
Any hint or advise is highly anticipated.
thanks,
Babak
I am new to this forum and I hope I can get some help from you guys. I own a jaguar x-type 2002 and I still love it. 2 weeks ago one day morning when I wanted to go to work the starter didn't kick in and I thought that should be the better problem. So I bought a new battery yesterday and replaced the old one. After I tried to start the engine I was surprised to see that engine can not fire up. It was working flawlessly before I replaced the battery. You guys have any idea what could go wrong during the battery replacement. I took the video so you can see the exact problem:
https://youtu.be/Nx1GYUIlfso
Any hint or advise is highly anticipated.
thanks,
Babak
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I took a listen to your video. When you first begin to crank the starter isn't receiving full voltage. Hopefully you have a multi-meter available. Place the probes on the terminals and take a voltage reading and then place the probes on the outside of the cable clamps. Is the reading the same? If it isn't the terminals are dirty and need cleaning.
Next, have someone try to start the engine, while the engine is cranking over take your hand and move the positive cable around and see if it starts up. If it does the cable is bad. If it doesn't place your hands over the battery terminals. Is one terminal felling hotter than the other. If so that cable or connection is bad.
Next, have someone try to start the engine, while the engine is cranking over take your hand and move the positive cable around and see if it starts up. If it does the cable is bad. If it doesn't place your hands over the battery terminals. Is one terminal felling hotter than the other. If so that cable or connection is bad.
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BabakB, this is going to sound funny, but give this a try:
-when rolling the key to the START position, pause for about 3-4 seconds in the RUN position, then roll the key to the START position.
What is happening when you do this is you are allowing the fuel pump to get the pressure up in the fuel line prior to the car trying to put fuel in the cylinder. If the pressure is too low, for some reason, the pump cannot get the pressure up high enough to start the car. This is normally associated with a fuel pump that is starting to go.
If you listen closely, you should be able to hear the fuel pump run for a second or so as you roll the key to the RUN position. It is possible that your fuel pump just happened to die at the same time. If you don't hear the fuel pump run, then you can try going over the passenger rear tire (for your US car) and if you look just in front of the tire, you should see the fuel tank there. If you look, you should see a half moon indentation in the gas tank. Stick your hand under the car, make a fist and then give the gas tank a good whack in the center of that half moon indentation. Then attempt to start the car again.
Two other things to check:
1) if when rolling the key to the RUN position, you don't hear the fuel pump running, you should also access the passenger foot well area by removing the plastic trim piece on the outside wall. If you look behind there, you should see a push button there. This is the fuel pump reset. Depress that button to ensure that the shutoff has not been tripped for some reason
2) remove the vacuum line running between the intake and the brake booster (at the intake end) and squirt some starter fluid in the intake and then reattach the vacuum line. Attempt to start the car again. Did the engine attempt to start and may even run for a few seconds? If no, then your problem is related to a spark issue, not a fuel issue. if this is the case, look down at the center console as you are attempting to start the car. Is there a red light that is lit? If yes, then your problem is related to the PATS system and for some reason, your car is not recognizing the key that you are using. Let us know and we can step you through getting that fixed.
-when rolling the key to the START position, pause for about 3-4 seconds in the RUN position, then roll the key to the START position.
What is happening when you do this is you are allowing the fuel pump to get the pressure up in the fuel line prior to the car trying to put fuel in the cylinder. If the pressure is too low, for some reason, the pump cannot get the pressure up high enough to start the car. This is normally associated with a fuel pump that is starting to go.
If you listen closely, you should be able to hear the fuel pump run for a second or so as you roll the key to the RUN position. It is possible that your fuel pump just happened to die at the same time. If you don't hear the fuel pump run, then you can try going over the passenger rear tire (for your US car) and if you look just in front of the tire, you should see the fuel tank there. If you look, you should see a half moon indentation in the gas tank. Stick your hand under the car, make a fist and then give the gas tank a good whack in the center of that half moon indentation. Then attempt to start the car again.
Two other things to check:
1) if when rolling the key to the RUN position, you don't hear the fuel pump running, you should also access the passenger foot well area by removing the plastic trim piece on the outside wall. If you look behind there, you should see a push button there. This is the fuel pump reset. Depress that button to ensure that the shutoff has not been tripped for some reason
2) remove the vacuum line running between the intake and the brake booster (at the intake end) and squirt some starter fluid in the intake and then reattach the vacuum line. Attempt to start the car again. Did the engine attempt to start and may even run for a few seconds? If no, then your problem is related to a spark issue, not a fuel issue. if this is the case, look down at the center console as you are attempting to start the car. Is there a red light that is lit? If yes, then your problem is related to the PATS system and for some reason, your car is not recognizing the key that you are using. Let us know and we can step you through getting that fixed.
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BabakB, this is going to sound funny, but give this a try:
-when rolling the key to the START position, pause for about 3-4 seconds in the RUN position, then roll the key to the START position.
What is happening when you do this is you are allowing the fuel pump to get the pressure up in the fuel line prior to the car trying to put fuel in the cylinder. If the pressure is too low, for some reason, the pump cannot get the pressure up high enough to start the car. This is normally associated with a fuel pump that is starting to go.
If you listen closely, you should be able to hear the fuel pump run for a second or so as you roll the key to the RUN position. It is possible that your fuel pump just happened to die at the same time. If you don't hear the fuel pump run, then you can try going over the passenger rear tire (for your US car) and if you look just in front of the tire, you should see the fuel tank there. If you look, you should see a half moon indentation in the gas tank. Stick your hand under the car, make a fist and then give the gas tank a good whack in the center of that half moon indentation. Then attempt to start the car again.
Two other things to check:
1) if when rolling the key to the RUN position, you don't hear the fuel pump running, you should also access the passenger foot well area by removing the plastic trim piece on the outside wall. If you look behind there, you should see a push button there. This is the fuel pump reset. Depress that button to ensure that the shutoff has not been tripped for some reason
2) remove the vacuum line running between the intake and the brake booster (at the intake end) and squirt some starter fluid in the intake and then reattach the vacuum line. Attempt to start the car again. Did the engine attempt to start and may even run for a few seconds? If no, then your problem is related to a spark issue, not a fuel issue. if this is the case, look down at the center console as you are attempting to start the car. Is there a red light that is lit? If yes, then your problem is related to the PATS system and for some reason, your car is not recognizing the key that you are using. Let us know and we can step you through getting that fixed.
-when rolling the key to the START position, pause for about 3-4 seconds in the RUN position, then roll the key to the START position.
What is happening when you do this is you are allowing the fuel pump to get the pressure up in the fuel line prior to the car trying to put fuel in the cylinder. If the pressure is too low, for some reason, the pump cannot get the pressure up high enough to start the car. This is normally associated with a fuel pump that is starting to go.
If you listen closely, you should be able to hear the fuel pump run for a second or so as you roll the key to the RUN position. It is possible that your fuel pump just happened to die at the same time. If you don't hear the fuel pump run, then you can try going over the passenger rear tire (for your US car) and if you look just in front of the tire, you should see the fuel tank there. If you look, you should see a half moon indentation in the gas tank. Stick your hand under the car, make a fist and then give the gas tank a good whack in the center of that half moon indentation. Then attempt to start the car again.
Two other things to check:
1) if when rolling the key to the RUN position, you don't hear the fuel pump running, you should also access the passenger foot well area by removing the plastic trim piece on the outside wall. If you look behind there, you should see a push button there. This is the fuel pump reset. Depress that button to ensure that the shutoff has not been tripped for some reason
2) remove the vacuum line running between the intake and the brake booster (at the intake end) and squirt some starter fluid in the intake and then reattach the vacuum line. Attempt to start the car again. Did the engine attempt to start and may even run for a few seconds? If no, then your problem is related to a spark issue, not a fuel issue. if this is the case, look down at the center console as you are attempting to start the car. Is there a red light that is lit? If yes, then your problem is related to the PATS system and for some reason, your car is not recognizing the key that you are using. Let us know and we can step you through getting that fixed.
I am back with all the tests done as you mentioned. First I wanted to make sure that battery has enough juice so I charged up for two days and put it back and tried all the tests:
- Battery can rotate the engine really fast but still can't start the engine.
- I sprayed some carb cleaner to the intake and tried but no difference.
- I found the fuel pump reset switch and pushed it several times but again no difference.
- When I start the led in center console is off so it shouldn't be any security problem.
- When I start the engine I feel like the engine is not rotating smoothly as before and I hear the whining sound at the beginning as you also can hear in the video.
Thanks much,
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I had this starting problem and tried everything to fix it, also took it about so-called experts locally and still problematic.
In the end I took it to a diagnostic company a little bit more specialised. They looked at two things - the battery and the starter motor.
Running tests on the performance of these two components it was discovered that the battery that had been powering my vehicle up was now well below power
therefore a new one was necessary. They also found my starter motor although vigorous was delivering insufficient power/current and once again advocated a
replacement. These parts were changed and since then (over 2 years) not a single starting problem. Hope this might give you some food for thought as I was at the time convinced neither of these two were the problem.
In the end I took it to a diagnostic company a little bit more specialised. They looked at two things - the battery and the starter motor.
Running tests on the performance of these two components it was discovered that the battery that had been powering my vehicle up was now well below power
therefore a new one was necessary. They also found my starter motor although vigorous was delivering insufficient power/current and once again advocated a
replacement. These parts were changed and since then (over 2 years) not a single starting problem. Hope this might give you some food for thought as I was at the time convinced neither of these two were the problem.
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