Modifying to an in line fuel pump???
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If you are thinking of replacing a pump that is in the tank, with an inline pump because it is easiest, it probably wouldn't work. Cars with an inline pump normally, if not always have the fuel outlet at the bottom of the tank, because most inline pumps will not draw fuel, and if they are on a car where the fuel comes out the top of the tank, they have what is called a prepump, like a Rolls Royce has, to feed the inline pump. Inline pumps, that the old Jags have only put out about 3 or 4 psi to feed carburetors, and not enough pressure for any kind of injection. They were in fact electric mechanical pumps, with a rubber membrane and one way valve. I have not looked at my Jag, but many cars have an access panel in the trunk to get at the in tank pump. We can only hope.....Hope this answer helps.......Be cool.....Mike
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jarrod_9427 (02-14-2015)
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If you are thinking of replacing a pump that is in the tank, with an inline pump because it is easiest, it probably wouldn't work. Cars with an inline pump normally, if not always have the fuel outlet at the bottom of the tank, because most inline pumps will not draw fuel, and if they are on a car where the fuel comes out the top of the tank, they have what is called a prepump, like a Rolls Royce has, to feed the inline pump. Inline pumps, that the old Jags have only put out about 3 or 4 psi to feed carburetors, and not enough pressure for any kind of injection. They were in fact electric mechanical pumps, with a rubber membrane and one way valve. I have not looked at my Jag, but many cars have an access panel in the trunk to get at the in tank pump. We can only hope.....Hope this answer helps.......Be cool.....Mike
If it's sketchy to do then I'm not gonna risk it though.
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So long as you have fuel down at the pump inlet without the pump running, you are OK. If you don't have fuel pouring out of the line, before the inlet most inline round pumps won't draw fuel, because they aren't made to. They are simply a motor with vanes on a shaft, kind of like an air tool in reverse. They are cooled by the fuel going through them, but they create very little if any vacuum to draw fuel in. Let me know how your experiment goes. I think a lot of us would rather put a pump in the line, than go into the tank. As for regulating the pressure, there is usually a pressure regulator already on the line, either before the injectors, or at the end of the line after the injectors, sending the excess fuel(bleeding off the pressure) back to the tank. If you are already putting the pump in the tank, it will work, but many tank units for the pump, also perform the fuel gauge function. A late 80s early 90s Corvette pump comes with a sock filter on the bottom, and would work well for what you are describing, and you would only need to hook up the outlet line, so long as you find a way to keep the pump on the bottom of the tank. Like I said before, once the fuel level goes below the pump level, you may not get fuel. I am an advocate of using parts made for the job. It takes 10% of the time to install them, and they work without experimenting.....Be cool....Mike
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jarrod_9427 (02-15-2015)
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I would agree with Mr. Plow on using a factory replacement. It is a PIA to do it and not the simple or cheap. On the other hand, most likely you will only do this one time for as long as you own the car. It's not like owners replace fuel pumps every year as part of routine maintenance. What you are proposing might work, but if it doesn't or you have trouble down the road, in the end it may cost you more aggravation, time and expense. Penny wise/pound foolish comes to mind here. Weigh everything up and see what makes the most sense for your situation. Sometimes it is best to just bite the bullet and get it done so you know it works the first time. Good luck and let us know what you end up doing.
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jarrod, the question that you need to answer with the inline pump idea that you is "how much suction pressure does the inline pump need?". Some pumps work fine with a vacuum on the suction. Others need a positive pressure. This is where having the "pre-pump" would make a world of a difference. I think you are going to find that if you have an inline pump capable of outputting 70 psi that it is going to require a positive pressure on the suction. Otherwise, the pump would need an additional stage which means the pump is going to work harder since it has to raise the pressure more which can lead to a higher current draw which may be too much for the fuel pump computer (remember, the controller pulses the fuel pump to maintain the desired fuel pressure, there is no fuel pressure regulator like older cars have).
If you have more questions about this, let me know.
If you have more questions about this, let me know.
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