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Old 08-08-2012, 10:42 AM
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I have a 2005 x-type 3.0. Drove it have the other night, no problems. Woke up the next morning and found a dead battery. Attempted to charge battery, charger said "replace battery". Got a new battery and battery went dead after a couple of hours. Also replaced alternator. There is a definitly a drain on the battery. No after market equipment on vehicle, all stock. can't locate the short.

Any common problems with these cars??
 
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:50 AM
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I'm not an X type expert at all but the first thing to do is measure the current drain.
You'll need a digital voltmeter with an 'Amps' range - cheap as old boots if you haven't got one.
Make sure it is on 'Amps' and you may need to plug the red lead into a special 'Amps' socket.
Disconnect batt +ve then , with everything switched off, put the meter between batt +ve and the + ve lead.
You'll need to re-charge the battery first of course.
Post the amps reading.
 
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Check the ignition switch, if the little closing flap gets stuck the car won't go to sleep.
 
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Norri, I checked the inginition switch. does'nt look like there is a flap there.
 
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Steve I also just checked the amps. It's drawing about 10 amps.
 
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:28 AM
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Perhaps Norri's right and it is stuck out of sight.
Try some WD or whatever on the key + some skilful wiggling.
I'd be a bit surprised if that would run your battery down overnight though.
How about those amps?
 
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:04 AM
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Steve, I did the electrical test and it's drawing 10 amps. Any ideas ??
 

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Obviously it isn't just because it's not going to sleep.
I'd definitely keep the earth disconnected 'til we sort it out because that will ruin your battery and could cause a fire.
We need an Xtype Xpert - they should be waking up in the US about now.
Otherwise it is a question of pulling fuses until you find it.
On a hunch, because you've changed the alternator, how hard would it be to disconnect both the battery lead and plug from it + check the drain again?
Obviously take great care not to short the big lead to earth.
 
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:12 AM
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Steve

Just ruled out starter, alternator. Checked amps from battery + and the lead to the main fuse box near the battery. That's where the drain is coming from. I then pulled every fuse in the box, no luck. I know the car has 3 other fuse boxes, but not sure if anything would draw those amps.
 
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:44 AM
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Maybe a sticky switch somewhere? Sunroof? Seat adjustment? Folding Mirror? Brakelights?

10 amps is quite a draw, you should be able to just touch the problem and find it, it will be hot.
 
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Have you downloaded JTIS for your X-type.
It will have an electrical section with more than you ever want to know.
As Bruce said it has to be something quite meaty that's stuck on.
Have you done a hard reset (disconnect batt earth lead, touch to batt +ve for a few secs, reconnect earth lead ?
It doesn't hurt and forces the various modules to reboot JIC one has got confused.
 
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Just checked seats, sunroof, brake lights. nothing. I was mistaking earlier, there's only 2 fuse boxes. Pulled every fuse in the boxes, still nothing.

Steve, just to make sure this is being done right. I have the amp meter + lead to the + side of the battery. With the + lead disconnected from the battery, I then connect the - lead from meter to + cable. That's showing about a 10 amp draw.

Where can I get the JTIS. Not sure on the instructions for the hard reset.
 
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Old 08-11-2012, 10:20 AM
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Just disconnected the + lead from under fuse box that go's into fire wall. Put a test light on it and it showed a slight short.
Tomorrow will be checking on the inside, any other ideas ???
 
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Originally Posted by Jaghead
Just checked seats, sunroof, brake lights. nothing. I was mistaking earlier, there's only 2 fuse boxes. Pulled every fuse in the boxes, still nothing.

Steve, just to make sure this is being done right. I have the amp meter + lead to the + side of the battery. With the + lead disconnected from the battery, I then connect the - lead from meter to + cable. That's showing about a 10 amp draw.

Where can I get the JTIS. Not sure on the instructions for the hard reset.
Yes, that's right.
Look in the 'stickies' at the top of your forum, there's one on loading + installing JTIS.
If you've pulled all the fuses and disconnected the alternator it sounds like a short in the wiring loom but why you should get a constant 10 A beats me.

Hard reset - leave the +ve battery lead connected, disconnect the earth batt lead then touch the earth batt lead to the batt +ve post. That will drain down all the capacitors in the various modules.
It won't hurt but I don't have high hopes.
 
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Old 08-11-2012, 12:14 PM
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I will admit to being unfamiliar with the X-Type fuse box construction, but if it is like 99% of every other fuse box base, the bottom is uninsulated (open). It might be possible there is a whisker from a wire or somesuch, that is touching the frame/body underneath the fuse block.

It would be easy enuff to check - just unscrew the entire block from the body, turn it over and look.

I know that there are cat whiskers all over my house - it makes sense there might be some floating around the car.

(and that could explain why pulling fuses does not solve the problem).

Check your Kitty for Loose Whiskers!
 
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I had the same idea Bruce, I checked the main box-nothing. I'll be checking the one under the dash tomorrow.
 
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I dunno if this will help but check the cable that runs from the battery through to the bottom of the main fuse box under the bonnet. It runs right across a body bolt at it's lowest. My insulation had worn through at the bottom and you couldn't see it until it arc'd and smoldered. Just a thought.
 
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