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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 07:50 PM
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I am new to Jaguar. I did rear brakes on a 02 xtype and replaced the pass caliper because of a sticking parking brake. I got the new on in, bled brakes, pedal to the floor. I have now used a vacuum bleeder system to bleed all four and replace with all new fluid. No brakes still! Am I missing something here? That caliper I replaced will not decompress the piston and I can't just keep bleeding. Any ideas guys?
 
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 08:44 PM
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Bleed the brakes the old fashion way. Attach a hose to the bleeder nipple and catch fluid in a cup, but keep the cup above the caliper. Can be tricky holding the cup and trying to twist the bleeder. You may need to bleed the ABS module also. I believe this is done by cracking the lines at the module while pushing on the brake, then tighten, release brake. Similar to doing the calipers. Maybe someone can chime in and confirm doing the ABS?
 
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 09:36 PM
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I did bleed regularly at fiesta. I have hours into that. I did get the car after there was a problem. Could have been drained of brake fluid completely. Where do I go next if the res was empire also? And I don't actually know where to find the ABS module. Any help there? Thanks
 
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Old Apr 4, 2013 | 09:44 PM
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At first* not fiesta. Auto correct sorry
 
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 07:46 AM
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lumponlog, when I bleed the brakes on my car, I use a piece of clear tygon (9/32" tygon as I recall) and it slips right on to the nipple and then I tape the hose to the top of the wheel well with enough hose hanging down that I can put the end of the hose in a catch container. That makes it so you don't have to hold anything and provides plenty of volume to prevent sucking air back into the caliper. If you were able to get solid streams of fluid out at the calipers, then your entire brake system is full of fluid and it is not an air entrainment issue.

As for your issue, I am assuming that when you step on the pedal during the bleeding process, you are pushing fluid out of the caliper? If this is the case, then your problem is the master cylinder is shot and what you are having happen is as you step on the pedal, the brake fluid is getting past the seals and not building up sufficient pressure to actuate the calipers. YOu need to replace the metal piece on the end of the master cylinder. That is where the brake fluid portion of the system is. The only other thing that it could possibly be is the ABS unit is shot. The ABS unit is located in the front passenger corner of the car. You will see a big metal block with like 8 metal lines coming out of it.

If you need more assistance, let me know.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 09:32 AM
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Would it makes sense then, that the master was perfectly fine before we got the car in the shop and now its gone?
 
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lump, if you were pushing on the brakes with the reservoir empty, it is possible that you hurt the internals. That is always a possibility. Granted, I would think that as long as you didn't blow air through the master cylinder to push all the fluid out, some residual fluid would have been left behind that would have prevented such a thing from happening.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 06:35 PM
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I want to thank you for all the imput. I bled the master and the abs mod and then the brakes again and we've got pedal again!
 
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Old Apr 5, 2013 | 08:59 PM
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Good to hear, even though it is way more exciting driving without them! ��
 
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