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Old Sep 6, 2018 | 10:59 AM
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Hello guys! I just bought my first Jaguar. A 2004 X Type with a 2 liter V6.

Great car, however, it's making a whining sound while accelerating. Really loud when the engine is cold. As soon as I start the car and rev it, there is no sound whatsoever. But, if I shift into Drive or Reverse, and back into park and rev it, it whines. That's it. I don't even have to move the car. Won't make a sound until I shift into a gear, but after I shift, it whines continuously with the RPM. It's a fairly loud groaning whine. Kind of scary.

It quiets down when warmed up. But it's still noticable. I googled a bit and found out that it could be the transfer case, but my car, being FWD, doesn't have a transfer case. Pretty confused right now.

I took a quick video and uploaded it on YouTube. Please have a listen.


Any ideas?

Thanks!

 
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Old Sep 6, 2018 | 11:27 AM
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hard to tell on a video but sounds a little like the heat shield on the exhaust manifold.
common issue...one of the mounting bolt areas can rust through and the shield becomes loose and rattles.
google x type loose exhaust heat shield.
plenty of posts in here about it
 
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Old Sep 6, 2018 | 11:36 AM
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Use jaguarforums + X-Type + loose exhaust heatshield for your Google search criteria. As iownme says, there's plenty of relevant posts.

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Old Sep 6, 2018 | 12:44 PM
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Thanks for the replies! I tried the search criteria, got results, but only found one video, and that was about a constant rattle.

If it is a heat shield, how can the pitch change with engine RPM?

This only happens when revving the engine. When I started the car and revved it, it didn't make a sound. I then shifted into D and kept it for 2 seconds, then to R, again for 2 seconds, and then shifted back to P. Revved it, THATS when the whine started! I didnt move the car, Just kept my foot on the brake and shifted to D and back.

Heres a video I took while revving, right after starting the car.


And heres a video I took while revving, after shifting to D and back.

So, no whine until I shift into a gear and back to Park. It can't be the gearbox because its fully disengaged when in Park, right?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2018 | 02:29 PM
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i can only lead you to the water.
im not a physics scolar so i cannot explain the hows and whys of your noise.
what i can say is that you have the classic sound and symptoms of what i have suggested is the cause.
your 2nd post only confirms this more.
feel free to look for other causes... perhaps try the chevy forum... lol
 

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Old Sep 6, 2018 | 05:00 PM
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The noise from the heat shield is a harmonic vibration; as the revs rise so does the vibration and hence the pitch.
Check it, what have you got to lose?
 
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Old Sep 7, 2018 | 08:18 PM
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Sorry for the late reply guys. Was a little busy yesterday. Alright. You guys are the experts, and that's why I came here. If that's what you guys say, then that's what I will check

I was skeptical because it doesn't make a sound until I shift into a gear.

I'll get this baby up on a hoist ASAP and give you guys an update.

Thanks a lot for helping me out!
 
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Old Sep 8, 2018 | 06:57 AM
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correct.... it doesnt make a sound till u shift into gear....we bin tryin to tell ya that!... lol
 
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Old Sep 8, 2018 | 09:32 PM
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There's another possibility that others have found when it was not a heat shield or a cat/muffler rattle.

Check the

X Type Rear Motor Mount C2S38951

also called the "dogbone".
 
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Old Sep 10, 2018 | 09:51 AM
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So I put the car up on a lift and checked all the heat shields. They're all nice and tight. No rattles.

I did notice that the right hand side engine mount appears to have been squashed a little. That could be it?
 
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