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Old Nov 8, 2015 | 03:06 PM
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Hello all. I have a 2005 X Type VDP. I'm hoping that someone can help me out with a windscreen wiper problem.

My wipers won't turn off regardless of the position of the wiper switch. It started out with my wipers coming on for 1 to 3 swipes randomly, then going back to park. One day, they came on and haven't gone off since. The only way I can turn them off is to pull the fuse. It's finally starting to rain in Northern California, so I guess I'd better make fixing this a priority

I believe that there are about 4 places where the cause can be. The switch/stalk, relay in the steering column, wiper motor, and wires near the brake pedal shorting.

Which area is most likely the culprit for rogue wipers not turning off? I don't have the money to guess and replace or to take a mechanic, nor the knowledge/tools to diagnose. So any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2015 | 04:05 PM
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My first guess would be a bad relay stuck closed. Attached is a picture of the underhood fuse box. R4 is the wiper relay, pull it and swap it with R6 and see if that resolves your issue before tearing apart the column.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2015 | 06:41 PM
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Hi Vern, Thanks! I'll give that a try in the morning. I'm guessing that they are interchangeable, and since I don't think that I have a windshield heater (not defroster, correct?), it will be great if it works. I'll let you know if it works.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2015 | 06:28 PM
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Hi Vern, The relay for #6 was absent. So I set out to find the relay for #4 (wiper motor relay). Long story very short, even the local Jag dealership doesn't show a relay for the wiper motor. I pulled the relay and read the Jag number to them, it's listed as, or is the same part as, the turn signal relay. Looking on Napa's site, their part for a turn signal relay looks exactly the same as what I pulled out, including a notch in one top corner.
Napa has to order it from Seattle as the Sacramento warehouse doesn't have it in stock.

Jag wanted $45, Napa has it for $8.95.

Napa Part Number: ECH AR6550 Listed as a turn signal indicator.

Going to see if I can get my current one tested and go from there.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2015 | 07:32 PM
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I have relays. I also have the stalk and wiper motor if you need it. I could ship out asap.
Text or call my cell. 484-903-4813.


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The Dr!
 
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 01:20 PM
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Did that Napa part work for you? Having the same issue and need to replace relay (I think).

Also -- while I did have a relay in the R6 slot, it wouldn't fit in the R4 position. The passenger side blade is bigger on 6 (windshield heater) than on 4 (wiper motor).

I wonder if they changed it between '02 and '05 on the X-Types.

In any case, I just went down to the Ford dealer and they'll have it here tomorrow. For $6 it's worth a shot.
 

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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 03:23 PM
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The electrical systems were changed in the 2nd quarter of 2004 and the wiring and fuse boxes are different. Give jagrepair.com a try. They have manuals and wiring diagrams for the 2004 and up.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 02:01 PM
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So I just replaced the R4 relay, but didn't change anything. Wipers still won't park correctly.

What's next to check?
 
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