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2008-2011 B&W Surround Retrofit from Base audio

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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 06:04 PM
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The optical connection in your photo normally plugs into a breakout loom. This breaks out into 3 places, DAB (depending on the age of the car, if it's early DAB is here, if it's later it's under the passenger seat) Amplifier and Satnav. TV can have a module on the optical network here too, if you have it. You will need an optical loom that daisy chains the units you install in the boot together, in the right order, to match your requirements.

An example of such a loom: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAGUAR-XF...cAAOSw1IhcDu-R
Thank you!! That explains a lot! Can I plug it straight to the amplifier if I do not need nor have DAB and satnav? It does fit.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 06:10 PM
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Yes you can. Is it long enough though...
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 06:13 PM
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Yes you can. Is it long enough though...
Fair point, I will check that tomorrow. Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2023 | 03:49 AM
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This retrofit is not possible unless you have access to an unlocked SDD diagnostic system, once you fit the amp and head unit there will be no sound until the Car Configuration File is updated. I know I guy in Warwickshire who can do this if you haven't got that side of things already sorted.

The head units used in the Base system without external amplifier are different to the ones that are with the external amp i.e. the B&W system. You can see the pic of both units next to each other, they aren't the same, they also have different software in them. You cannot run an external amplifier from a Base head unit.

Part number for the head unit to get is 7G9N-18C815-TB, that is the newest version, it's also used in the XK and the Freelander 2.

You will need to make up the wiring loom for the center speaker, as this is missing. You will also need to extend the fibre optic loop to include the amp. The rest is just a matter of plugging and unplugging.
Im facing the issue of finding a person/company to do the configuration. Could anyone recommend anyone? I live in Sussex but I'm willing to travel to get this done!
 
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Old Dec 20, 2023 | 07:34 AM
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Im facing the issue of finding a person/company to do the configuration. Could anyone recommend anyone? I live in Sussex but I'm willing to travel to get this done!
I've done this for a few people over the years but I'm in Wales 😂
 
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Old Dec 20, 2023 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by toxo
I've done this for a few people over the years but I'm in Wales 😂
It might have to be Wales then, I have left a message with the last localish hope who will get back to me in the New Year, if that's a no in all seriousness, I will travel to Wales if you can do it
 
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Old Jan 8, 2024 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Hazyteejay
It might have to be Wales then, I have left a message with the last localish hope who will get back to me in the New Year, if that's a no in all seriousness, I will travel to Wales if you can do it
I have just heard back from my last hope in finding a audio specialist that can complete the audio and yet again it's no so if anyone is willing to help or point me in the direction of someone that can, please get in touch. I'm willing to travel at the point so all areas considered!
 
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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 02:58 PM
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Hey!
I am so glad I found this thread as it gives me hope it's possible to upgrade my amplifier in my 2010 Jaguar XF 3.0D.

I bought this car recently and it came out the previous owner has replaced all of the speakers to B&W already.
I have very basic options in the audio settings - no surround etc.
I have subwoofer installed.

Unfortunately, the audio still sounds very poor, so I think the amplifier is the "guilty" part.

I currently have 6H52-18C808-CD installed.

I purchased BJ32-19C164-AF, which has different sockets.

Please can someone advise how to replace my current amplifier with the new one I purchased? I am aware it's not the highest version, but if I manage to fit it in, I will look for a higher version which has the same sockets.

To my current amplifier there are three plugs connected:
- fiber (with laser)
- power
- green one with many cables

The fiber and power fit to the new one, but the green one doesn't.
I have some additional plugs around the amplifier. There is also one female green socket that I can connect the green plug.

Is this even possible or do I have to look for another amplifier?

Thanks!

My amplifier and the new one:

Unused connectors:

 
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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 03:01 PM
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I think you have the wrong amp.
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​​​​​​The green male plug goes into the green female plug to bypass the amplifier when the car has the base sound system and there is no amplifier present.

The mid range system which has the amplifier in the rear of the car but is not marked as "B&W" and does not have surround options on the screen uses the same yellow Kevlar speakers as the high end system, so you probably have stock speakers. It just has fewer speakers and a different amplifier.

The spare connectors in your hand in the last photo are for the optional TV tuner unit and are not related to what you are trying to do. Hope that helps.
 

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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 03:22 PM
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Thanks @toxo, that helps!

Do you think it's worth upgrading from `6H52-18C808-CD` to `6H52-18C808-DD` then?
I found it has slightly more power:

6H52-18C808-CD, Freelander 320W Mid-line 9/11-speaker, XF 320W "Jaguar" 9-speaker system
6H52-18C808-DD, Freelander 480W High-Line 14-speaker, XF 440W B&W 14-speaker
Or does it make sense only if I plan to add the missing surround speakers? They look pretty much the same/have the same sockets so I think the replacement should be easy
 
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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 03:24 PM
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It has more power because it has to drive more speakers. The power output per speaker is more or less the same. If you don't fit the extra speakers (and do the CCF changes) there is no point in upgrading.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 04:32 PM
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As above you need the 14 speaker DD amp.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2024 | 06:28 PM
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Hi Everyone,

I would need just a little help. I recently purchased a B&W Sound system (see the link) which doesn't have a sub as the ad states, but that's not an issue for me. I have the basic 80W HU in my car MY2010 (but by the VIN it says 2011), so as you see I have the amp and all the speakers (well I need to cut the front doors for the mids) , probably I won't install the centre dash speaker as no harness is there and I don't want struggle with that. So my question is , because after reading all the comments I didn't see or I missed that I have to change the HU from the standard to the 6 CDs one or it's enough just to change via the SDD that now I use and external AMP not the HU's internal one ? Also can anybody help with the SDD just to make the change of the sound system (the only reason I bought the cable for it), because I was searching everywhere how to use the SDD but no any detailed video or description found unfortunately about. That's the only thing I want to code.Also before I forget about the MOST extend . Is it necessary as it says for network ? What that means ? Network of the car audio system or what ?
Sorry for all these questions , but I changed from 10 years of BMW to Jaguar, where I was able to code the car and do all the modifications, but seems the documentation of the Jag is very limited or maybe I'm just too newbie ...
Thanks for any help in advance.

2011 JAGUAR XF Mk1 X250 Bowers and Wilkins Sound System with Amp and Sub | eBay

 
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Old Nov 3, 2024 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cambo
Well it's not my car, I just did the work on it. The owner is happy with the result and doesn't want any aftermarket stuff in it, hence going down the "factory retrofit" route.

Compared to the crappy 80W Base system, the B&W is already a huge step up.
my 09 xf has b&w system very crisp and was highly regarderd as the best soundeding car system of its time.prefer the new jeep wagoneers mcintosh system though, as well as after market focal.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2024 | 04:22 AM
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Good morning everyone! I ask you experts for technical information on how to proceed! I own a Jaguar XF X250 year 2009 and I have the Premium 320W version as my audio system. I have 4 speakers and 4 tweeters on the 4 doors and the factory subwoofer in the spare wheel well. I purchased the floor of the parcel shelf with the 2 speakers under the rear window to be clear from another Jaguar XF. How can I proceed for the assembly? Do I need what other OEM amplifier to make the 2 new speakers on the rear floor sound? I would not be interested in installing the speaker in the central dashboard as I only wanted greater involvement from the rear. I have the JLR SDD program on my PC and I have already modified the CCF once to install the optional USB socket to listen to music. Thanks everyone!

 
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Old Dec 6, 2024 | 04:56 AM
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It's all or nothing with the speakers I believe. Once you have the B&W amp installed and configured, it will expect the centre speaker to be present. The audio processing modes you'll have available on the head unit are 3 - Speaker or Pro Logic 2, both of which are going to send some portion of your audio to the centre speaker whether it's there or not, and crucially that centre audio won't be going to the other speakers.
You can turn off audio processing mode but I'm pretty sure it then doesn't use the rear speakers. I can go and test that later today though as I have an outstanding issue on mine to troubleshoot.

EDIT: I did the same upgrade in the same year car as you. You'll need the extra speakers in the front doors too. Those are the ones you have to cut the door cards for, next to the door handle. The rear speakers, centre speaker, and extra door speakers are all the same part.
 

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Old Dec 6, 2024 | 06:08 AM
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thank you!!! very kind for the clarifications!!! for the upgrade which amplifier do I need? what OEM part number? as for cables instead what do I need to connect to the updated amplifier and speakers?? thanks again
 
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Old Dec 6, 2024 | 06:49 AM
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The car will be completely prewired with the exception of the centre speaker, it's all at the start of this thread
 
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Old Dec 6, 2024 | 08:06 AM
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yes I read the posts back ... the only thing I can not understand where should the wiring of the center speaker go to connect? From the center of the dashboard where do I have to get? While from the 2 speakers in the parcel shelf where do I have to go to connect? for the amplifier I think I understood that the correct part number for the upgrade is 6H52-18C808-DD right? thanks again Toxo for the help.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2024 | 08:14 AM
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I did some photos for this, I thought they were in this thread.

The centre speaker wiring goes to a large green plug on the end of the dashboard. I think if your car is LHD this will be driver's side - on mine it was passenger side. As mentioned by Cambo earlier in the thread, if you can get hold of a 2nd parcel shelf harness, you can use this to make the additional wiring loom for the centre speaker.
The parcel shelf connects to a plug on the very outside edge of the firewall between the rear seats and the boot of the car, on the seats side. The outer bolsters of the rear seat can be removed separately and the connector plug is behind them. Other plugs in the same area are the 3rd brakelight and the optional rear blind. If I remember right the 3rd brakelight and the rear blind plugs are on the RH side and the speaker connector is on the LH side.
 
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