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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 07:13 PM
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Damn now there is this.



https://pin.it/5I7QGx0

Anybody interested in beeing Guinea pig...
 
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlos Saez
Damn now there is this.



https://pin.it/5I7QGx0

Anybody interested in beeing Guinea pig...
visually, not liking it.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 07:36 PM
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Me neither but if it works better than the existing ones, it might be worth it.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2021 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Carlos Saez
Me neither but if it works better than the existing ones, it might be worth it.
I wonder if it would be possible to use/reference programming from it and implement them into the other units.

but like you said, might be worth it. Any links?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2021 | 12:40 AM
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Yeah, not liking it either. I understand they're just copying the trend from (eg) Mercedes/Mazda etc but this "tablet glued to the dash" look is not my thing, OEM or not.

That said, interesting UI mimicking the newer JLR interface. I'd be intrigued to know how the software stacks up.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2021 | 08:01 AM
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More bezel than screen.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2021 | 11:14 AM
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Yeah, not liking it either. I understand they're just copying the trend from (eg) Mercedes/Mazda etc but this "tablet glued to the dash" look is not my thing, OEM or not.

That said, interesting UI mimicking the newer JLR interface. I'd be intrigued to know how the software stacks up.
Not my thing either just to bulky. Would also be interested to know how they got the original UI to work🤔
 
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Old Apr 30, 2021 | 07:14 AM
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Here it is although ugly this is what we need for the other units, a button to take you back to the original system.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2022 | 10:39 AM
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Well after a lot of debate and seeing the YouTube videos from a Land Rover with one (
) I've decided to take the plunge and have ordered one. I'll do an install and test video when I get it. The main thing I'll be looking for is how well the Original system functions. If you watch LR video you'll see that they haven't completely been able to decode the Dension system but apparently they've decoded the Bosch system which is in the MY2012-2015

So if anyone is interested keep an eye out here.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2022 | 10:20 PM
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For me I do not see the need for any android or after market items. I love my Jag all original, and the info system may be out of date, but works great for my needs. If you all feel the need for them, then go for it. I do wonder when you go to sell the car, if the added non original item will help the sale or hurt the sale. My guess it would depend on who wants to by one modified or not.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2022 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Luke2004xjr
For me I do not see the need for any android or after market items. I love my Jag all original, and the info system may be out of date, but works great for my needs. If you all feel the need for them, then go for it. I do wonder when you go to sell the car, if the added non original item will help the sale or hurt the sale. My guess it would depend on who wants to by one modified or not.
Totally agree, it's all about preference and functionality. If you just have the car parked up in your garage and only bring it out when the sun shines or just drive back and forth to work every day and fly on holiday and are happy with FM radio and or listen to CDs from the 90s, then the infotainment system is satisfactory.
If however you drive all around Europe and need the best routes with up to date maps and traffic information whilst listening to Spotify or a podcast and have your messages read out so you don't have to look at your phone, then the infotainment system just doesn't cut it. These are beautiful cars but were let down from day one by the infotainment systems and I think almost everyone would agree to that. So before I change the car or start sticking things on the windscreen I'm glad that it is now possible to upgrade the infotainment systems to bring them up to the 2020s.
As for the resale benefits I believe it would make the car more attractive to a more connected and modern buyer.
But that's just my view 😁
 
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Old Apr 11, 2022 | 06:29 PM
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To be fair to Jag, the XF infotainment system was designed in the late 2000s when flip phones were a big hit, Spotify was a 2 year old startup and about a year or two after the iPhone 1 was launched.
Not defending the slow and clunky interface. Just saying it's unfair to compare 2008 compute to 2022 innovation

I just magnet clip my iPhone to the dash, Bluetooth to the car and I have waze, Spotify, Siri and any other features I need. And my car touchscreen is free to control the car.
We have a Land Rover with full CarPlay integration and honestly it hardly makes any difference.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2022 | 10:32 AM
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Please keep us updated I'm very interested to check if it's working fine, the YouTube video you posted for LR is just unusable, nothing seems to work with the OEM system.
I found this one seems to work for both denso en Bosh systems.

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mO2epDY
 

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Old Apr 19, 2022 | 08:13 PM
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I agree

I have had Apple Car Play installed into my 2008 XF which I've had from new. I much prefer keeping the original look and feel of what I think is a beautifally designed dashed. My system works perfectly, but of course its a personal choice thing!!!
 
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Old May 22, 2022 | 06:15 AM
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Hi guys sorry it's been so long in the making but finally got there

I've installed the unit and personally I'm very pleased with it. The installation is pretty simple, the only fiddly bit is removing the OEM screen, which in fact is pretty simple I've done a how to vid and will post the link at the bottom and where I bought the unit. I didn't go with Aliexpress this time but found a website, all be it in China, but the service has been fantastic. I had a problem with the PCB board that connects to the OEM head unit and we did some fault finding over WhatsApp only to find out the board was defective but without any hesitation or problems a new one was sent to me.

So what do we get,

it's an 8.4" anti glare screen with android 11, 8Gb of RAM and 64 or 128 Gb of Storage, I went for the 128Gb.
It has Car play for IPhone users or Android Auto.
All the things you'd expect from an Android unit
It uses the OEM Amplifier so there's no messing about with cutting wires or installing blue boxes for the optical cables, as it runs over the cars AUX. The good thing is thought you don't have to run a wire to the AUX Input it's all done i the wiring loom.

So the thing most have been waiting for,

YES we maintain all the functions from the OEM system including the display. The only thing that you have to get used to is the fact that when you're using the OEM Radio (the unit doesn't have a built in one), CD or USB to listen to music while navigating you won't get any voice guidance because the Android side uses the AUX to output sound.

For Carlos if you get a warning in the dash display you can switch to the OEM display and read/clear it

Here's the links to my Vids:


and if you're thinking of buying one here's the link to the website (be advised they use $ but even with the conversion fee from PayPal it's still cheaper than Aliexpress):

https://ntaudios.com/brands-caterory...er-jaguar.html
 
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Old May 25, 2022 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Taffyduck
Totally agree, it's all about preference and functionality. …[snip] So before I change the car or start sticking things on the windscreen I'm glad that it is now possible to upgrade the infotainment systems to bring them up to the 2020s. As for the resale benefits I believe it would make the car more attractive to a more connected and modern buyer. But that's just my view 😁
Absolutely agree too (in the same boat), and I've now got a bunch of questions, having looked at your terrific videos of the instal process. Hope you don't mind me asking here, since I suspect others may want the answers too! It sounds as though you've done lots of research. I've tried to do the same, but invariably I hear of reports from people vaguely stating that some things don't work 'yet', or they've not configured it just yet. All very worrying for the amount of money that is put down for the unit.

1. Has the flickering of the average speed and distance settled yet? I was quite alarmed by that, and I need these for work.

2. Do the reversing camera guidelines pivot as you reverse, or is the overlay fixed (or non-existent)? A video of this would be great.

3. Can the unit be powered off when driving, as per the OEM unit (at night, I often drive with as much turned off as possible on long journeys).

4. Have you used it comfortably in bright daylight? (No glare or readability issues)

5. I note with some concern that all sounds are routed through the 'Auxiliary' function, which means that voice guidance disappears when playing music (presumably via other sources). What happens with incoming phone calls whilst navigating? Does the navigation sound cut out? (I would hope so, though I'd imagine if I was to use CarPlay/Android Auto, all sounds would be sent through from the phone, so no drama there?).

6. I assume that voice INPUT is handled by the Jaguar system (i.e. the microphone in the interior lights). Can you verify this?

The videos are of great assistance, and I'm looking forward to seeing a few more. I have absolutely no qualms about updating the head unit to be worthy of using in this day and age. The OEM system was designed around zero interaction with phones (other than calls), and the biggest frustration for me is that all of my iPhone messages are ignored/muted in the current system, yet a car that is half the price and only 3 years younger (my wife's car) has CarPlay/Android Auto, and she can respond verbally to messages etc on the run, as well as use modern maps etc.
 
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Old May 25, 2022 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ivanov
Absolutely agree too (in the same boat), and I've now got a bunch of questions, having looked at your terrific videos of the instal process. Hope you don't mind me asking here, since I suspect others may want the answers too! It sounds as though you've done lots of research. I've tried to do the same, but invariably I hear of reports from people vaguely stating that some things don't work 'yet', or they've not configured it just yet. All very worrying for the amount of money that is put down for the unit.

1. Has the flickering of the average speed and distance settled yet? I was quite alarmed by that, and I need these for work.

2. Do the reversing camera guidelines pivot as you reverse, or is the overlay fixed (or non-existent)? A video of this would be great.

3. Can the unit be powered off when driving, as per the OEM unit (at night, I often drive with as much turned off as possible on long journeys).

4. Have you used it comfortably in bright daylight? (No glare or readability issues)

5. I note with some concern that all sounds are routed through the 'Auxiliary' function, which means that voice guidance disappears when playing music (presumably via other sources). What happens with incoming phone calls whilst navigating? Does the navigation sound cut out? (I would hope so, though I'd imagine if I was to use CarPlay/Android Auto, all sounds would be sent through from the phone, so no drama there?).

6. I assume that voice INPUT is handled by the Jaguar system (i.e. the microphone in the interior lights). Can you verify this?

The videos are of great assistance, and I'm looking forward to seeing a few more. I have absolutely no qualms about updating the head unit to be worthy of using in this day and age. The OEM system was designed around zero interaction with phones (other than calls), and the biggest frustration for me is that all of my iPhone messages are ignored/muted in the current system, yet a car that is half the price and only 3 years younger (my wife's car) has CarPlay/Android Auto, and she can respond verbally to messages etc on the run, as well as use modern maps etc.
Hi and how you're well.
I'll have to get back to you on some of your questions as I'm currently lying in hospital 😏
Point 1 I'll have to check
2. It uses the cars original reversing camera so nothing has changed.
3. Yes the screen can be turned off night.
4. I have used it during sunlight with the sun shining on it and it does have an anti glare screen👍
6. You can pair your phone for calls to either the unit or the oem system. I'll have to check if the unit has a inbuilt mic or not.
​​​​​​​5. As you said if you're listening to music from the oem system I.e CD then you'll have no voice guidance from the android side. But I imagine as with me if you get one of these all your music is on Spotify or some other music service. The oem side is just for setting the time and clearing any warnings that come up 😉
 
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Old May 25, 2022 | 02:21 AM
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Speedy recovery, I hope - I'll try not to push too many questions your way!

Thanks for the quick responses: you've answered most of my questions (Terrific!), though I'm not quite sure how I'll go about listening to music from my iPod - it's plugged in to the centre cubby hole in a dedicated plug - not actually the 'aux' port, since the MY12 model has a plethora of inputs whilst listening for other inputs from the system.

And of course if I choose to use CarPlay instead, I'm assuming that it'll all go through the one input. I may need to reconsider my music-listening strategy altogether, but perhaps it's not a big deal - on long journeys here in Australia, navigation isn't needed until you hit the big cities.

I've emailed the supplier that you mentioned to see what overall price (inc p&p) to Australia - their website is only 'half-formed' in that more information is needed for potential buyers. I'm encouraged by the response that you got from them, ll the same.

Incidentally, is your XF a MY12? Just trying to work out if I will get the same unit or not, and what differences are likely.
 
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Old May 26, 2022 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ivanov
Speedy recovery, I hope - I'll try not to push too many questions your way!

Thanks for the quick responses: you've answered most of my questions (Terrific!), though I'm not quite sure how I'll go about listening to music from my iPod - it's plugged in to the centre cubby hole in a dedicated plug - not actually the 'aux' port, since the MY12 model has a plethora of inputs whilst listening for other inputs from the system.

And of course if I choose to use CarPlay instead, I'm assuming that it'll all go through the one input. I may need to reconsider my music-listening strategy altogether, but perhaps it's not a big deal - on long journeys here in Australia, navigation isn't needed until you hit the big cities.

I've emailed the supplier that you mentioned to see what overall price (inc p&p) to Australia - their website is only 'half-formed' in that more information is needed for potential buyers. I'm encouraged by the response that you got from them, ll the same.

Incidentally, is your XF a MY12? Just trying to work out if I will get the same unit or not, and what differences are likely.
Hi and thanks.
Yeh my car is one of the first MY 2012 actually built in July 2011 so you should get the same unit. The customer service really has been great and I even got a message today asking about the trip information screen which you said was flickering, unfortunately being stuck in hospital I can't double check it 😏.
I think using CarPlay would be your best bet as you won't have to switch between systems. I use Spotify and will be trying my DAB+ USB adapter when I get out of here.
 
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Old May 30, 2022 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ivanov
1. Has the flickering of the average speed and distance settled yet? I was quite alarmed by that, and I need these for work.
The problem was with the Android head unit
I've been sent a replacement (again good service) and now all is working as it should and no flickering
 

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