Hello everyone thanks for your great replies on some of my thread it's been very helpful considering I don't know anybody in Florida with a jaguar xfr or anybody for that matter at all besides everybody on this form I wish we all lived close together anyway I want to try and do the oil change myself but it looks like I need some sort of vacuum pump because I've never owned a jaguar or anything like this so I didn't know you can drain the oil out of the reservoir from the top looks like I need a special machine or a tool or should I just bring it somewhere and bring the oil in the filter to them and let them do it any opinions please let me know also I guess it's time at 72000 miles that I should do a brake line flush anyone know how much I should spend for one of these things

 

Changing the oil on a jag isn't really different to any other car, there's a blot/plug in the oil pan at the bottom of the engine. undo it and oil will flow out. Fill it up from the hole at the top.
Make sure you change the seal/plug when you do that otherwise they can leak and put in the correct oil.

I don't have the workshop manual for XFR or know which engine model you have so I'm not sure how the oil filter is fitted but its either a metal thing that you replace entirely, or a filter insert that goes inside one.

 

The filter is an cartridge up top. Easy to do

Just like any car there is a drain plug below.

 

This is how I did my 2010 5.0 however, I changed the oil recently and used 0w/20 and the engine was much quieter. At this point I would recommend the 0w/20 as I understand Jaguar is doing now.

Link. JagRepair.com - Jaguar Repair Information Resource

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JagRepair.com - Jaguar Repair Information Resource

 

I got a pump from harbor freight for 70 something and it worked great... took maybe 30 mins total for everything.. tookonger to change the air filters. after a while one of the plastic pipes wouldn't seal properly(an extension) complained and they refunded the cost.. so it still works tho hah

anyway ppl who argue about that the pumps don't get all the oil from the sump/bottom of the pan, since I had 2 jugs of oil, and we don't need 8 quarts, i used some of the excess oil to pour in and remove it with the pump until all that oil came out and you know its all good to go.
I used Pennszoil platinum but said I need the ultra platinum, but what's everyone recommend for the 2012 xf 5.0

 

The XF is the first car I've owned that is specifically designed to siphon out the top. You can drain it from the bottom like old-fashioned cars, but that requires removing the engine undercover which is more work than its worth. But I actually prefer this new method. Its a lot faster and a lot less messy, in fact no mess at all. Jacking up cars, crawling underneath and removing drain plugs and oil filters always spilled some or at least got it all over my hands. But this way is better. Just spend $100 for an extractor like this one.


Just be sure to get one with enough capacity. The filter is up top too, and its a cartridge type unlike the screw-ons that tend to dribble oil when you unscrew them, there's no mess. Just remove the cap, replace the cartridge, a new o-ring and put the cap back on. Don't worry about the siphon leaving an once or so of used oil in the bottom of the oil pan. With 7 quarts of fresh oil, that's really inconsequential and remember Jaguar engineers intended it to be done that way.

Then just take the whole fluid evacuator reservoir to wherever you return the used oil and they'll pour it directly into their holding tank. That was another thing about draining oil into a pan. Always no matter how careful I was, I'd wind up spilling some while trying to pour it back into the jugs. Saves a lot of paper towels. Or even if you need to put in jugs for pick-up, its a lot easier to pour from the spout on the extractor than to pour from a pan.

Really I don't know why anyone would pay for an oil change when its this easy. I can order the supplies online and do the job myself in 15-20 minutes compared to 15-20 minutes drive plus an hour wait to have a shop do it. Saves a lot of time and money. The only reason you might want to have it done is if you don't have convenient recycling tho I can't imagine where there isn't convenient recycling today.

 

Where are you sucking the oil out since there is no dipstick tube to suck it through? I have an extractor but I just empty the oil from under the car since I wasn't aware of a way to get into the pan otherwise.

 

right there dude
right inside the oil filler cap

open the filler cap..its right there

 

This has got to be one of the easier oil changes on planet Earth. It can't take more than 25 minutes...even with an ancient oil extractor.

 

Ultra Platinum 5w20 is Jaguar Land Rover STJLR.03.5004 "qualified". Platinum is apparently not.

 

yea with the extractor, I think it took longer to replace my air filters and the oil filter than siphoning the oil


so what would yall get... yes i did mine a couple months ago with just platinum and no problems as of yet, will probably redo it in a month or 2 but with ultra...

so what would you all get...
basically they are all the same price
castrol, ultra platinum, mobile 1...

 

For some reason the post duplicated.

 

The only one of the three that is readily available, while meeting the Jaguar specification, is the 5w20 Ultra Platinum. Right now it's about $25 a jug. It doesn't get much better than that. Typically, keeping a spare oil change in reserve, isn't a bad idea.

The ACDelco PF659 oil filter is a suitable alternative to the factory, overpriced, filter. Unfortunately, it's been discovered on the AtoZ site and has gone from $8 to $17. Still better than the OEM price. You can still stock up at RockAuto for $8.

 

Ahh, that tube goes all the way into the oil pan bottom? Did not know that.

My extractor tube is too big to fit into it. I guess I need to buy some thinner hose to get down there.

 

yep goes to the bottom.. I changed mine with an extractor from harbor freight; and I changed it on an inclined driveway so I just made sure to pour some more oil and pump it out making sure it was the new oil that came up clear

maybe if the tube is bigger maybe find a rubber grommet see if it'll make a seal and vacuum and get the oil out

 

You connect your extractor tube to the top of the tube (as shown) that is under the oil filler cap. Just use a piece of rubber hose, etc. to make the connection. Then you're all set.

 

But can you confirm that if you just extract using that tube that it goes all the way to the bottom of the oilpan? I would prefer to stick my own tube down there so it can go below wherever that tube flows and into the very bottom of the pan.

I have a Topsider extractor.

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/to..._390306_390306

 

It goes all the way to the bottom. The Dealer uses this method.

 

See photo from my engine rebuild thread showing roughly where the extraction tube sits at the bottom of the sump:

 

You don't and in fact cannot stick a tube or hose down the oil extraction tube, it has far too many tight bends in it.
Instead you stick a piece of vacuum tubing or a connector plug over the top of the extraction tube, only a cm or so over the top is plenty.
But it is vital you make a good air tight seal so as to create a vacuum (that's why it's called a vacuum pump, duh!), otherwise you can sit there pumping away for hours getting nowhere fast. Most 7/8/9 litre oil extraction kits have a correctly sized plug on the end of one of the supplied tubes but some don't. The external diameter of the car's oil extraction tube is 9 mm so you want a tube or plug or connector with an internal diameter of 9 mm.
My kit didn't have a 9 mm connector instead it had a 10 mm one, too big to make a decent seal. But I had a spare plastic vacuum plug with a 9 mm internal diameter laying around, I drilled the other end of it out and it fitted perfectly inside the 10 mm connector and over the top of the car's tube and worked a charm.