As the title state, I'm looking to replace these bushes and pins to a 2012 3.0l XF. The dealership state that the only replace the entire arms including bushings for a figure that boggles the mind. Not being a certified Jaguar mechanic but being a chartered aeronautical Engineer I know full well that the bushs can be replaced and with the help of the internet can see these bushes and pins are available ex Jaguar..



Has anyone replaced just the three bushes to each lower arm and if you have was it a difficult job.



Any help on the subject is appreciated as the XF is in top nick save for this advisory on its last MOT.



Thanks

 

Sorry no pictures? Hard to say?
You need 10 posts I think before you can upload pictures.
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No not difficult. Nuts and bolts, and a hydraulic press with the right assortment of press bushes.

Or remove the lower arm and take along to your friendly garage shop with hydraulic press, and new bushes to press out old press in new type deal. 1/2 hours labour.
(or buy El cheapo Chinese 10ton press and bush extraction set) Having done this on the S types which is basically the same set up.

Usually you only have to replace the 2 rotating ball bushes, the other is solid and is usually good.

The other option is Poly bushes, easier but pricy.

or second hand lower arms and swap out. Lots of lowish milage Diesel 2.0lt about in breakers yards.

Other manufactures use the same bushes, so check the sizes and see what fits.


"with the help of the internet can see these bushes and pins are available ex Jaguar.."

Didn't know jaguar sold the bushes! usually a third party manufactured, OEM. Though a Jaguar independent parts supplier.

Remove the push side of the bush rubber dust cover before fitting, or you run the risk of damaging the cover and causing a short life of the bush bearing.

Also consider the shock lower bush replacement at the same time.

Are you sure they are bad, some(all) MOT places like to generate work. and further future work. Is it making a clunking noise! and are the rubber dust covers damaged.
Check the drop links and the sway bar bushes also.

A MY 12, and say at 120K miles it would be getting to the bushes, and suspension bits and bobs replacement time especially with the state of UK roads.

 

thanks for the info.. no they are not that bad from what I can see , only an advisory on the last MoT. The bushes I have found are ex JLR stock from a dealership that looks to be shutting down. I've done loads of replacements on Aircraft undercarriages in the past without any bother but never attempted these on a car before.
I suppose its what your comfortable with. I'll look into the 2.0 arms as a option , never considered that before.

Thanks again

 

I have not used them, but try this link

https://powerflexstore.co.uk/jaguar-...xfr-x250-2008/

or this
https://www.powerflexusa.com/shop/ca...2008-2015-1474

 

John since you have experience with bushing replacements can you post some pictures of how you did it?
Love to fix stuff instead of throwing it all away and buying new.
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they're just not worth doing. the arms are so brittle and the lemforder bushings are too much of a pain to press in without a torch. a used arm from a 2015+ XJ or F-Type that doesn't use clear rubber will last you the rest of the car's life

 

As the next poster to yours states these are very brittle in particular the cast Ali ones. the steel not so much. The trick we used on Aircraft (castings for landing gear and engine mountings) was to place the new bushing in a freezer compartment of a fridge to reduce the size ever so slightly while keeping the casting that was going to accept the new ones at room or just above room temperature with a heat gun to warm them. The new replacement bushing would normally slip straight into the original casting with little force using a hydraulic press or a large enough socket with a polyurethane hammer. I've never had any problems as long as you take the time and think things out. You let the casting and the bust then come up to room temperature before any other operation. Cracking in any bust is a bad sign in anywhich way you look at it. I'd not fit any bust or bearing that didn't look right. Cracking on a rubber bust is always a sign of impending failure. .

 

they're deep in the lemforder catalog if you really want them

 

Hi there,

Like you, I'm not a certified Jag mechanic (just a lowly automotive suspension and body engineer for the last 30 years), but I did do the job myself on my 2006 XJR ($60 for all six bushes vs. $400 for one control arm seemed worth it). It is possible, but without at least a 10 ton hydraulic press with sleeves or a VERY large sledgehammer, it's nigh on impossible. As a Brit in the US, I know what you mean about the roads. They're just as bad here in the rust belt state of Michigan. The problem you'll face is galvanic corrosion. Those steel sleeves on the bushes will have corroded their way into the alumin(i)um bushes and locked solid. It took several full swings with a 7lb sledgehammer to break them loose (miracle I didn't break or bend the arms). I'd avoid heat on the aluminium as it'll alter the heat treat process the arms went through. It is much easier to push the new ones in (my 6 ton hydraulic press did it easily). Having said that, I rebuilt the arms at 120,000 miles and they're still good 5 years later at 216,000 miles.

If you were here in the US, there's a great online store called RockAuto where you can get the full control arm with bushes for $108 each. For that, it's not worth the hassle of changing bushes yourself. I took this option on my 09 XF supercharged. In case you're wondering, yes, all the control arms since 1999 on the S-Type, the XJ and the XF are all the same. They all used the same major suspension components (with the exception of air shocks on the XJ). Your 2013 is the same.

Good Luck,

Chris.

 

found them! ex Jaguar parts by the look which will do nicely... Now i need to try and find the 2x 3 replacement bolts and lock nuts and that too is proving a mare. Thanks for the pointer toward the oem parts

 

Just a quick update to all those who have given me plenty of information.. Two new Lemfórder wishbones (actually Jaguar with the name and P/no removed, ground off ) ordered fromBERKSHIRE JAG COMPONENTS at a fraction of those ordered direct from Jaguar but still the Original parts fitted to the vehicle.. The new Lemfórder drop links from AF Advanced Factors,+44 (0) 23 8052 2760. sales@advancedfactors.co.uk. Here in the UK and a full set of new bolts and nuts ordered from Jaguar. Everything has arrived and the links and bolts on the vehicle sprayed with Penetrating oil. Hopefully this will be completed in the next two weeks.

I had been quoted £1280.00 GBP by my local dealership but these parts totalled just under £580.00 so the rest I guess was labour, work space and profit. I'll post updates at completion.

Thanks again.

 

Final update on the replacements...All done and dusted last Weekend.. Worst part, thats easy, getting dirty. the best part, the final torque clicks on the last suspension bolt. If there was a problem that took an age, without using a disc grinder, it was the N/s drop link top nut on removal. it was a ******, yet the O/s took a little over five minutes to remove the link top and bottom mainly due to the 7mm stud being corroded. All the other bolts came out. easily and the replacement wishbones went back nicely lubricated and fitted into place. All new bolt and nuts were fitted and Torqued up with the weight on wheels. That was fairly straight forward and a road test was sound. The old Wishbones showed the deterioration of the inner, mainly the aft bushing and also the out to hub not so much. More to the point my lovely car can continue to give me further driving pleasure.

Thanks to everyone who convinced me to give it a go and the advice how to go about it... The Seven hundreds of pounds in my pocket will no doubt be put to further good use