Supercharged vs. XFR real-world driving differences?
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Supercharged vs. XFR real-world driving differences?
I only have my 2010 Premium for 10 months, but already thinking sometimes about my next car after lease is up.
Assuming Tata does not screw up the XF in the next 2-3 years ( which already looks like they will), I would lean toward the XF supercharged. I always liked driving a 'sleeper', and this car would be the ultimate sleeper.
In real world performance, it appears to be virtually identical to the XFR ( maybe 0.1 sec. slower to 60mph, etc. for example). The only really desireable I can think of, is the better driver seats in the XFR. The flat seats in the XF do not allow me to take full advantage of the performance capability of this fantastic car - even with the 'basic' 5.0L.
Any thoughts?
Assuming Tata does not screw up the XF in the next 2-3 years ( which already looks like they will), I would lean toward the XF supercharged. I always liked driving a 'sleeper', and this car would be the ultimate sleeper.
In real world performance, it appears to be virtually identical to the XFR ( maybe 0.1 sec. slower to 60mph, etc. for example). The only really desireable I can think of, is the better driver seats in the XFR. The flat seats in the XF do not allow me to take full advantage of the performance capability of this fantastic car - even with the 'basic' 5.0L.
Any thoughts?
#3
Maybe I'm biased but...
The XFR feels more responsive. Throttle response. Steering response. suspension response. It might be an nth degree of difference but I'm glad I went for the full fat XFR rather than the 2% Supercharged. The XFR feels like a real sports sedan, the Supercharged like a GT cruiser.
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The XFR feels more responsive. Throttle response. Steering response. suspension response. It might be an nth degree of difference but I'm glad I went for the full fat XFR rather than the 2% Supercharged. The XFR feels like a real sports sedan, the Supercharged like a GT cruiser.
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I only have my 2010 Premium for 10 months, but already thinking sometimes about my next car after lease is up.
Assuming Tata does not screw up the XF in the next 2-3 years ( which already looks like they will), I would lean toward the XF supercharged. I always liked driving a 'sleeper', and this car would be the ultimate sleeper.
In real world performance, it appears to be virtually identical to the XFR ( maybe 0.1 sec. slower to 60mph, etc. for example). The only really desireable I can think of, is the better driver seats in the XFR. The flat seats in the XF do not allow me to take full advantage of the performance capability of this fantastic car - even with the 'basic' 5.0L.
Any thoughts?
Assuming Tata does not screw up the XF in the next 2-3 years ( which already looks like they will), I would lean toward the XF supercharged. I always liked driving a 'sleeper', and this car would be the ultimate sleeper.
In real world performance, it appears to be virtually identical to the XFR ( maybe 0.1 sec. slower to 60mph, etc. for example). The only really desireable I can think of, is the better driver seats in the XFR. The flat seats in the XF do not allow me to take full advantage of the performance capability of this fantastic car - even with the 'basic' 5.0L.
Any thoughts?
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In reality, your never gonna have the space to "safely" operate these cars at there optimal level(Sport mode, dynamic mode, etc), except maybe at race track or some abandon roads. So really for daily driving purposes they are pretty much the same, except for appearance.
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Interesting views here. The $12K jump from XFSC to XFR is hardly justified here in Northeast USA, with all the traffic and speed limits unless you take the cat to the track. Like I said, on the roads here I can hardly take advantage of my XF 5.0L, but I can always use more power (mentally)
I personally am un-impressed with all '***** out' sport sedans, showing off to the world and looking for attention. My sleeper cars were 1991 Infiniti Q45, 2003 Infiniti M45. Both are 'the' sleeper' cars of their time. Under the radar - is the way to go in my view here in this area where everybody is driving BMW 'M', Benz AMG, Audi 'R' . This is just talking about sadans.
For me, if I feel like driving a sports car, I jump into my trusty 2000 Honda S2000 ( the sleeper of the sports cars)
I personally am un-impressed with all '***** out' sport sedans, showing off to the world and looking for attention. My sleeper cars were 1991 Infiniti Q45, 2003 Infiniti M45. Both are 'the' sleeper' cars of their time. Under the radar - is the way to go in my view here in this area where everybody is driving BMW 'M', Benz AMG, Audi 'R' . This is just talking about sadans.
For me, if I feel like driving a sports car, I jump into my trusty 2000 Honda S2000 ( the sleeper of the sports cars)
#13
The sports sedan is a compromise. It's not straight line speed per se but the visceral experience you get from driving a sports car that's missing. The XFR masks road feel and brake feel in the name of comfort and that sits a bit uneasily in a car that has such phenomenal straight line speed.
Jaguar could help by bringing out a hardcore version of the XFR (XFR-S?). Stiffer lower suspension, less rubber in the steering rack, ceramic brakes with a small enough diameter to fit 19" or 18" wheels, and a real sport setting on DSC that doesn't nanny you if you get the back out. And if it looks like a diesel XF then I would be happier still - the more aggressive looks are an irrelevance in my book.
Jaguar could help by bringing out a hardcore version of the XFR (XFR-S?). Stiffer lower suspension, less rubber in the steering rack, ceramic brakes with a small enough diameter to fit 19" or 18" wheels, and a real sport setting on DSC that doesn't nanny you if you get the back out. And if it looks like a diesel XF then I would be happier still - the more aggressive looks are an irrelevance in my book.
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Interesting views here. The $12K jump from XFSC to XFR is hardly justified here in Northeast USA, with all the traffic and speed limits unless you take the cat to the track. Like I said, on the roads here I can hardly take advantage of my XF 5.0L, but I can always use more power (mentally)
I personally am un-impressed with all '***** out' sport sedans, showing off to the world and looking for attention. My sleeper cars were 1991 Infiniti Q45, 2003 Infiniti M45. Both are 'the' sleeper' cars of their time. Under the radar - is the way to go in my view here in this area where everybody is driving BMW 'M', Benz AMG, Audi 'R' . This is just talking about sadans.
For me, if I feel like driving a sports car, I jump into my trusty 2000 Honda S2000 ( the sleeper of the sports cars)
I personally am un-impressed with all '***** out' sport sedans, showing off to the world and looking for attention. My sleeper cars were 1991 Infiniti Q45, 2003 Infiniti M45. Both are 'the' sleeper' cars of their time. Under the radar - is the way to go in my view here in this area where everybody is driving BMW 'M', Benz AMG, Audi 'R' . This is just talking about sadans.
For me, if I feel like driving a sports car, I jump into my trusty 2000 Honda S2000 ( the sleeper of the sports cars)
Yidal, here is a pretty cool article/review of the 2010 XFSC you might like, as it talks about the beauty of the fact that the SC is pretty much one of the best "sleepers" out on the market now
Review: 2010 Jaguar XF Supercharged is the Goldilocks of Q-ships — Autoblog
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Many automotive journalists have said unequivocally that the XFR is better on the track than the XKR. So enough with slamming the sports sedan concept.... a super sedan like the XFR is just as good (and in sometimes better) than an aggressive GT....
But for the most hardcore sports cars, the XFR can run with the best of them..
But for the most hardcore sports cars, the XFR can run with the best of them..
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Many automotive journalists have said unequivocally that the XFR is better on the track than the XKR. So enough with slamming the sports sedan concept.... a super sedan like the XFR is just as good (and in sometimes better) than an aggressive GT....
But for the most hardcore sports cars, the XFR can run with the best of them..
But for the most hardcore sports cars, the XFR can run with the best of them..
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Bada$$
Frankly let the S/C be the GT cruiser and make the XFR more bada$$ - more M-B Black Label. The XK needs to go onto a serious Weightwatchers program to compete around the corners against a 911.
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My previous post was intended to dispel the notion that a sport sedan cannot be as good as a sports car/GT. That's why I used the XKR as a comparison. The XFR received a lot of notoriety for its dual nature. Tame luxury sedan that can really bite when you want it to. In fact, many favored it over an M5 because the XFR was easier to live with on a daily basis. So, yes the XFR can be more "hard core," but that would also take away from what makes it shine.
At the same time, I think for 12K more, the XFR should have a lot more power than the S/C. I'd like to see the new XFR get the XKR-S motor (probably will happen when the XK goes into the next generation). A 80 hp difference would make a big difference and be worth the extra cash.
At the same time, I think for 12K more, the XFR should have a lot more power than the S/C. I'd like to see the new XFR get the XKR-S motor (probably will happen when the XK goes into the next generation). A 80 hp difference would make a big difference and be worth the extra cash.
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My previous post was intended to dispel the notion that a sport sedan cannot be as good as a sports car/GT. That's why I used the XKR as a comparison. The XFR received a lot of notoriety for its dual nature. Tame luxury sedan that can really bite when you want it to. In fact, many favored it over an M5 because the XFR was easier to live with on a daily basis. So, yes the XFR can be more "hard core," but that would also take away from what makes it shine.
At the same time, I think for 12K more, the XFR should have a lot more power than the S/C. I'd like to see the new XFR get the XKR-S motor (probably will happen when the XK goes into the next generation). A 80 hp difference would make a big difference and be worth the extra cash.
At the same time, I think for 12K more, the XFR should have a lot more power than the S/C. I'd like to see the new XFR get the XKR-S motor (probably will happen when the XK goes into the next generation). A 80 hp difference would make a big difference and be worth the extra cash.