swap 3.0 with 5.0 in 2013 AWD
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With 26 thousand posts I would think that you could handle a few simple words on what would be needed on the swap, as opposed to being vague and aloof. Obviously this is a question that comes up occasionally, so having someone with experience answer with some degree of clarity would help anyone looking into it.
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With 26 thousand posts I would think that you could handle a few simple words on what would be needed on the swap, as opposed to being vague and aloof. Obviously this is a question that comes up occasionally, so having someone with experience answer with some degree of clarity would help anyone looking into it.
The short answer to your question is "No," the long answer is "Anything is possible with enough time and money." Whether you've got enough time and money is up to you
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I tend to agree, but this thread and many others (which can be found through the search function in the top right) have already answered this query so the long-time members here may be tired of answering it over and over again.
…Swap the engine out and you'll require a new ECU. Swap the ECU and suddenly you need three more modules to match the ECU. Swap those three modules and you need five more...
…Swap the engine out and you'll require a new ECU. Swap the ECU and suddenly you need three more modules to match the ECU. Swap those three modules and you need five more...
The best I have found is maybe the ECU needs swapped, but no other modules have been mentioned. If there is a post or thread somewhere with details, I would greatly appreciate having it shared with me.
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Thanks for mentioning VAP has done this? Can you post a link as I think we all would be interested in how big a job it is?
Surprised I have not seen this on VAP's website as I am a current customer and have talked to Stuart and Christopher several times?
Stuart if your reading this can you please wade in and give us the inside scoop?
Today I just got VAP's black Friday sale catalog and nothing about this at all??
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Surprised I have not seen this on VAP's website as I am a current customer and have talked to Stuart and Christopher several times?
Stuart if your reading this can you please wade in and give us the inside scoop?
Today I just got VAP's black Friday sale catalog and nothing about this at all??
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From the most recent response I just received:
… you would need to flash the ECU with an AJ133 V8 file through SDD – to avoid a problem with the immobilizer. The XE we did has all the firmware/software for an F-Type R, including on the transmission & transfer case."
It does concern me that they state all of the firmware is of the F-Type, as I believe the XE (X760) and F-Type (X260) share the modular D7a platform. And if that's the reality, that the X351 is different enough to not play nice with the swap because there was never an AWD 5.0SC variant, at least we know!
Last edited by JoshMcMadMac; 11-15-2023 at 01:12 PM.
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I am discussing through email with them, I doubt it is something they are interested in making a standard offering as I am sure it would be somewhat unique to each swap.
From the most recent response I just received:
… you would need to flash the ECU with an AJ133 V8 file through SDD – to avoid a problem with the immobilizer. The XE we did has all the firmware/software for an F-Type R, including on the transmission & transfer case."
It does concern me that they state all of the firmware is of the F-Type, as I believe the XE (X760) and F-Type (X260) share the modular D7a platform. And if that's the reality, that the X351 is different enough to not play nice with the swap because there was never an AWD 5.0SC variant, at least we know!
From the most recent response I just received:
… you would need to flash the ECU with an AJ133 V8 file through SDD – to avoid a problem with the immobilizer. The XE we did has all the firmware/software for an F-Type R, including on the transmission & transfer case."
It does concern me that they state all of the firmware is of the F-Type, as I believe the XE (X760) and F-Type (X260) share the modular D7a platform. And if that's the reality, that the X351 is different enough to not play nice with the swap because there was never an AWD 5.0SC variant, at least we know!
Nothing is impossible, there's just varying degrees of difficulty and "impossible" usually just means someone hasn't blazed the trail yet. If you think you're that someone, you'll probably need to learn most of it on your own rather than being given a neatly packaged shopping list and a list of steps to take - VAP might be a good source, but I doubt they'll be able to fully walk you through it.
If you do decide you're that someone, be sure to create a thread and document your progress so we can all learn!
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