Just bought XFR-S, will be delivered next week.
Concerned about tires.
Has Pirellis but want a more all season tire.
Can anyone recommend a good 295/30/20 all season tire?

 

I've switched my to all seasons. In the manual it will show the recommended tires for winter amd all seasons, they are the same tire specs as the XFR. I use michelin pilot sport a/s 3+. Great tires with longer life and better snow/wet traction without sacrificing grip/handling.

 

Just put Michelin sport a/s 3+ on the Big Cat yesterday. They ride very smooth and quiet and the Big Cat loves to play too.

 

So, let me get this straight.


You choose to buy the ultimate XF and you want to take off the maximum high performance tires and install all-season rubber?


Why didn't you just buy a 4 or 6 cylinder XF.


For the love of God man, why?

 

I know, but I have had bad experiences with summer performance tires on wet pavement and I also drive mine in winter (cold, no snow) and summer tires not very good then.

 

Actually not same specs.
XFR is 285 on back, XFR-S is 295

 

What "bad experiences"? OEM Pirellis and Michelin PSS (I've had both on mine) are perfectly fine in heavy rain, as long as you don't try anything foolish.

I have to echo "10 XF Premium". This is the ultimate XF. Please don't settle for all season tires, which IMO excel at neither summer nor winter driving, and are therefore a foolish compromise. Pony up for proper winter tires if the temperatures go below 7 C where you live, and enjoy the performance potential of your car in the summer as you only can with proper summer rubber.

 

Had summer tires on my first XF and they were way squirrely when roads were wet.
I will see how Pirellis do before switching.

 

I get what you are saying.


I went with the Continental Extreme Contact DSW 06 Max-performance all seasons when my factory Dunlops were recalled on my 2013 XF 5.0SC. They have been good, but the sidewalls are very spongy.


I bought a set of aftermarket 20" wheels and installed Pirelli Sotozero winter tires on them. I choose to go with 255/35/20 rubber (correct size to keep speedo correct) on all 4 corners as skinnier tires are better on snow. I used them 1 season (about 4 months) and they have been sitting in my shed for the last 1.5 years as I no longer drive her in the snow.


If you want, I would make you a killer deal on my winter set. Ready to go, even has the color matched tuner lug nuts. I am not that far away from you, I would be will to meet you half way. Private message me and I can give you current pics and more info if interested.

 

Yes, the xfr uses different tire width because the xfrs has wider wheels but its still the recommended tires by jaguar for winter and all seasons. But in terms of perfermance your not going to lose any. Lets be honest, you dont need 300km/h rated tires if your not going to seriously track your car at high speeds. Your going have the same performance for spirited drives and itll be quieter, more comfortable, and youll have the sense of security in the rain and light snow. My pirreli rears wore out in less than a year, fronts a few months later. Ive had the michelin on for about 8 months now and i dont have a single complaint about em in terms of performance. Tires still have a lot of meat on them too.

Use your perrelis until the tire life is done. Then switch to all seasons. Your not gonna regret it.

 

Your idea of a spirited drive must be quite different from mine. If you can't tell the difference between dedicated summer performance tires and all seasons (and it's more than the speed rating and how fast they wear, BTW) then I am not sure what you are doing with an XFR-S.

 

^we are comparing the stock perreli vs the pilot sport as3+. In terms of dry performance its about the same. As3+ offer great grip and sharp handling, good road feedback without the harshness of the perreli.

If we were comparing the as3+ to the pilot super sport or extremecontact dw then its a different story. I've been through a lot of different uhp summers and a lot of uhp all seasons with various vehicles both street and track.

On top of that, if OP is in a region that rains a lot or drops below 7 degrees celsius then the perreli isnt gonna do squat in dry or wet because it cant warm up enough, that goes for all uhp summer tires.

I live in vancouver bc, it rains at least 6 months out of the year and snows quite a bit these recent years. On top of that, tempurature falls below 7 for 4 months out of the year. Thats why i use all seasons.

Sure, having dedicated winter tires and dedicated summer tires are ideal. But with the xfrs, its either you buy two sets (very very expensive) and swap out the tires and balance and mount. Or you get a second set of wheels with winter tires on. A second set of wheels to fit the xfrs isnt that easy, you need high offset wheels to fit the fronts and clear the bbk without poking past the fender (illegal in vancouver). Its either you go flow forged wheels or custom forged which can be expensive.

 

My personal experience with the factory Pirellis is...meh... At 4K they were worn out and slippery. The only other set of 4 matching that I can find is the Michelin which are getting great ratings so it's the next set going on (I'm only at 5K miles right now).
If I could find a proper set of Bridgestones that would be my only other choice. Not sure what else you've found out there that matches the XFRS load ratings...??

 

I went with the separate summer sports and winter tyres on my 2010 XF SC (also the sortozeros). I live in cold / snow zone and it definitely helps. But worth putting them on a separate set of wheels so the swap is easy. Also protects your nice wheels from a winter beating...

Puzzled by the comments about wet driving. High performance summers are optimized for warmer weather vs the broad temp range AS have to cover. But they are absolutely designed to work well in the rain. They would be of limited use otherwise
the independent tests I've seen show high performance summers doing better than all seasons in rain when it's warm weather (e.g. 60-70F). There is a review somewhere on TireRack that did a direct comparison

 

You are equating a P Zero with an all season Michelin for dry performance? Yes, I can see that all season tires are indeed perfect for you... enjoy!

Allenman, the PSS is an excellent tire, with a well-deserved reputation. Just don't expect them to last very long if you drive the car hard. I honestly have not found them to be any more durable than the OEM Pirellis, but they do grip, and grip, and grip...

 

i just put 295.30.20 nitto motivos on rear of 2010 xf supercharged. i wanted to go wider than my stock 285's and the 295's also made the overall tire height very similar to front 255/35's..

they've been good so far.

i think they are $216 each shipped on amazon. have a "560" rating for tread wear

only have couple hundred miles on them, but nothing bad to say. i'm in same boat as you in that I'm willing to sacrifice a bit so as not to have to run two sets of wheels / tires.. also like that i can rotate side to side because of asymmetrical tread on this staggered setup.

 

Nitto is one of the few all season 295/30/20 on the market.
Because they were low priced and I had not heard of them I was skeptical.
How is the noise?

 

for a 30# rubberband, the noise isn't noticeable. I'm fussy about that kind of thing and they are just fine. and i found some very favorable reviews on them with little online searching before settling on them.. the other tire i considered was an all season toyo i believe.. it seemed to fare worse than the nitto when reviewed

for what it's worth - just go for it!! you're gonna burn em off anyway with 550 hp!

 

I personally just took of 245/40/19 Continental DWS 06 for the same tire brand/ specs but for 20'' tires. Love the continental DWS 06 performs well in every way. Dry/wet/snow they are amazing

 

I love my DWS 06 performance wise but on my 20s they flat spot every night and shake the wheel until they have warmed up. It's incredibly annoying.