Forgive what is likely the 200th question about pads, but trying the Search function went directly to a, "...your token has expired", statement (whatever that means).

The XJL is getting close to getting new pads, maybe new rotors too, and I wonder who has found pads or pads/rotors that performed the same as OEM, but produced less dust. Without first-hand knowledge, it's my understanding that ceramic pads are least dust, but burn through rotors faster and require greater pedal pressure. Is that true?

If not, and I choose ceramic, are new or a different type of rotor needed? Of course, are OEM type pads just as good/dusty as anything else?

Any thoughts based on what you've tried would be appreciated.

 

bamaboy473, I have ceramic pads on my car all the way around and have had them on many other cars. As for increased rotor wear, sure. I am sure that they do wear the rotors a bit faster, but you are more likely to have to replace a rotor because it became warped than met minimum thickness. I have only changed rotors recently due to wanting a different style rotor (this was on my X-Type, went to a cross drilled, slotted rotor). I am getting ready to switch to cross drilled/slotted rotors on the XJ because I ran across a deal I couldn't say no to. Atleast on the X-type, the ceramic pads were capable of essentially planting the front bumper into the road. It definitely cleared the seats. In the XJ, I can get the same response with ceramic pads on the factory rotors.

As for dust, I get very minimal dust. I am sure people will shake their heads at this, but I hardly ever wash my rims and the build up on the rims is more from dirt than any sort of brake dust. So, if you are contemplating ceramic pads, go for it.

One note of caution, based on the signature pic, it would appear that you have a non-supercharged engine (same as I have). what I said above is all applicable. If you have the upgraded rotors (comes on the supercharged cars), then there is some argument about use of ceramic pads as Jaguar (as I recall) says not to put ceramics on them. Most use EBC pads instead.

 

Good to know about ceramics, Thermo. What are EBC pads, since my car has the 5.0L supercharged engine. I am also looking at drilled/slotted rotors not because I need them, but they look great and with the few miles we put on the car, this would be a one-time purchase. Can you share the super deal you got?

 

Having the SC 5.0 means you have the 380 mm front and 386 mm rear brakes (same as fitted to the XFR, XKR, XJR and F-Type R although the F-Type rear brakes are a little different to the others).
Not a helluva lot of ceramic brake pad choices for these sizes, last I checked it's pretty much EBC or nuffin.
Although I think Porterfield do the R4S for them as well - carbon/kevlar rather than ceramic but just as good and just as low dust, I have been running them on my F-Type for over two years now with zero problems and very low dust.
With the EBC the choices are Redstuffs or Yellowstuffs, with the reds being a street pad and the yellows being more a track focused pad (noisy, dusty and poor when cold but much better on the track then the reds).
I'm also not sure about "ceramics wear the rotors faster than OEM", my experience has been the opposite across a range of ceramic / Porterfield pads and OEM / similar to OEM pads - Centric Posiquiet semi-metallics, much the same material as the OEM - I have found less rotor wear with the ceramics and Porterfields.
Remembering that the majority of brake dust comes from the rotors not the pads.

 

Looks like EBC Ultramax slotted and Red pads for the least dust, right? I wonder why they don't have drilled rotors, because now I'm wanting to stick with the looks of drilled/slotted. Red pads and somebody else's rotors maybe?

 

TRW makes Ceramic pads for both front and rear on the SC 5.0 models. As I accumulate parts to do a brake job on my 2012 5.0 SC, I found that Brembo is now making Ceramics for my application. I found them both at Rock Auto at a great price. I ran the TRW's that cost $55.00 for fronts for close to 30k (fronts) miles before changing them, and 15k on the rears.Pretty dust free, and nice feel to them. Wholeheartedly recommend either of them.

 

Are there any special tricks, tools or techniques to doing the brakes on our cars?

 

My big deal about brakes on my bride's car are shimmy and dust. At 55K miles, it looks like the fronts might be factory, which is amazing but the rotor ridge is about 1mm and the pads are worn. The rotors and pads I put onto the car will be the last ones just because we are old and 5,000 miles/year is maybe about average. That said, there are rotors out there for $500/front set, and those that are $150/front set; both drilled and slotted.

Can somebody tell me why I should assume that the more money is equal to the more value received?

 

Heaps and threads and posts around here about changing the brake pads (and rotors) on XJ, XF, XK, F-Type etc, search is your friend!
But one "special" tool, one "special" trick and one "special" tip for you.
Tool - 9 mm hex (allen) driver for the front brake caliper slide pins.
Trick - the rear brake pistons need to be wound/screwed in (not pressed in), plenty of tools/kits on Fleabay for this.
Tip - do NOT engage the EPB (hand brake) before jacking the car up, make sure it is OFF.
Otherwise it's a piece of cake, I have changed the pads and/or rotors on 2 XFs and an F-Type so many times I have forgotten how many.

 

No, more money does not mean more value.
I bought "cheap" Fleabay special Hart drilled and slotted brake rotors for my old XFR some five years ago, and then moved them over to the F-Type, and they have been brilliant - great braking performance, minimal dust, no vibration or judder ever, and still barely worn below new thickness after some 5 years.
As I have explained elsewhere JLR dealerships charge a ridiculously inflated price for new brake rotors and pads when after-market are as good if not better for a fraction of the cost.

 

Another special trick is that I found that I didn’t need to remove the caliper retaining bracket on the front or rear of the car to get the rotors on and off. I was able to slip the rotors around the bracket if I lined up the screw holes just right. This saves you undoing the high torque bolts that people often reuse, but are technically recommended to be replaced.

Edit: check out R1 Concepts for rotors, they are pretty good quality and have a 1 year warranty.

 

Good trick!
I have never figured out how this could be remotely possibly despite (as I said before) changing rotors and/or pads many times, it just seemed to me that there was no way of getting the rotors off past the caliper retaining brackets.
No biggie for me, removing and replacing the brackets was easy enough, but next time I replace rotors (if that ever happens!) I will give it a go your way.

 

I recently went to Brembo pads and they brake as well as OEM once well broken in, save for a bit of creek noise just at stop. I did install new OEM rotors at the time of the pad install as wanted all fresh. Dust is way way down, maybe 10% of OEM..

 

EBC makes ceramics, and carbon ceramics too, if I'm not mistaken.
I haven't used EBC on my 4-wheelers though. Rock Auto has good ceramics for good prices for the Jag XJ and for the LR RR.
And for comparison, I look at what Summit Racing has, and what prices they have, which are always very competitive too.
I like to use the Power Stop evolution ceramic pads. Rock Auto has them for $35 a set for fronts. Very clean.
And they have a variety of brands of replacement wear sensors from $15 and up.
AND they have a variety of rotors, including drilled/slotted (I would get slotted, but not drilled).
AND they have rotor and pad kits.

 

Yep, I have used Power Stop evolution ceramic pads and they were great, the smoothest quietest and lowest dust pads I have ever used while still giving good stopping power and barely wearing the rotors at all. But that was on an XFS with the 355 mm front and 326 mm rear brakes, and last I checked they do not make them for the 380 mm front and 376 mm rear brakes.

 

Power Stop pads & rotors for the 2014 XJ are available here in the US from Rock Auto:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...brake+pad,1684

They have carbon fiber ceramics available too. I haven't tried those, but they might need specific rotors with carbon fiber ceramic pads.

 

Sorry, but as I have tried to explain many times before, they are for the 355 mm front and 326 mm rear brakes not the 380 mm fronts and 376 rears that are fitted to 5.0 SC versions of the XJ, XF etc. The key is SC.

 

Ah yes, my sincere apologies. I was focused on the OPs fitment, and providing the link that applies to their beautiful specimen of a vehicle, albeit no supercharged.

I don't keep up with the fitment of the supercharged F-type such as you have, although I do give an occasional thought to getting one. Very attractive vehicle!

Not that this is an F-Type forum, or to distract from the OP, Centric makes ceramics to fit your 2014 F-Type SC:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...brake+pad,1684

 

Looking through that Rock Auto list all except one of the Centric fitments which fit the 380 mm front and 376 mm rear brakes are semi-metallic and none are shown as ceramic. Rock Auto have also been a bit naughty listing several sets of 355/326 pads under the F-Type R category when all F-Type Rs have only the 380/376 combo (ignoring the CCM brakes for now).
The only one which is 380/376 and might be ceramic is the very last listing, PQ PRO.
I haven't heard of these before but they might be just as low dust and low noise as known ceramics, seeing as they are advertised as very low dust and very low noise.
Problem is the listing seems to be for front pads only although it does mention the 376 mm rear brakes.
Anyway, thanks for the heads-up, if I ever need new brake pads for the F-Type again I reckon I will give these a try (if they do rears as well!), seeing as they cost a lot less than my current Porterfield R4S pads and EBC Redstuffs.

Edit - just spent an hour or so trawling the interwebz and zero trace of these Centric PQ Pro pads for the rear 376 mm brakes on the F-Type.
They may exist for the 376 mm rear brakes on the XF SC, XFR, XJ SC, XJR etc though, I didn't search for those, remembering that the F-Type rear calipers and pads are very different to those on the XFR, XJR etc although the rotors are the same.
But the front 380 mm brake parts - rotors, calipers, caliper brackets and pads - are absolutely identical across F-Type, XF and XJ.

 

It was mentioned in this thread that slotted rotors were preferred, and to NOT get drilled. That's kind of the opposite of what I thought, so what do you guy say (or is it a Ford/Chevy type of question?)

R1 makes their drilled rotors with countersunk holes, and they were my first choice, but I have time to read opinions.