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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 10:29 AM
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Planning on replacing the entire front & rear suspension on my 06 XJ in the Spring. I know fronts are unique to Jags and no issue findind the arms, but rears seem to be a it of a challenge. The Lincoln LS/Ford Thunderbird share the same rear arms, but after reading through some old threads it seems the lower arms are not a direct fit on the 06+ cars.

Really have two questions:
1) Will the Ford upper arms fit all x350s regardless? If so that's good news.
2) Will the Ford lower arms NOT fit an 06+ car due to the bushing towards the knuckle being too wide? If not, are there any Ford part numbers that cross-reference directly with the 06+ lower arms or do I need to buy OE Jag lower arms?

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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 87LC2
Planning on replacing the entire front & rear suspension on my 06 XJ in the Spring. I know fronts are unique to Jags and no issue findind the arms, but rears seem to be a it of a challenge. The Lincoln LS/Ford Thunderbird share the same rear arms, but after reading through some old threads it seems the lower arms are not a direct fit on the 06+ cars.

Really have two questions:
1) Will the Ford upper arms fit all x350s regardless? If so that's good news.
2) Will the Ford lower arms NOT fit an 06+ car due to the bushing towards the knuckle being too wide? If not, are there any Ford part numbers that cross-reference directly with the 06+ lower arms or do I need to buy OE Jag lower arms?

Any info appreciated.
When I replaced my entire suspension I used the ford rear upper arms. The ford lower arms did not fit the 06. They would need to be shaved a bit so I sent them back and got OE lower arms.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 12:36 PM
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yes they fit with a grinder

direct fit arms are like under 200 a pair on ebay
 

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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 12:46 PM
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Right now you can get the rear lower lemforders Part Numbers: W0133-1896553 & W0133-1896554 for $215.58 I would order before they go back up. That's a great price.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 01:31 PM
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You guys are awesome as always, thank you. Glad that the Ford upper arms are a direct fit, there are tons of them on RockAuto for various Fords. I'll get the direct fit lowers now. I was planning on using RockAuto for most parts, is there another place I should be looking?

@xalty - Do you have a link for the rear lowers at $200/set? Checked Ebay and found the proper arms, but they seem to be $200 or so per side.

@FreeWifi - Noticed you have an 05 GXP, cool car. I have an 08 Lacrosse Super but planning on selling it. Got it a few months back with 4900 original miles and just can't bring myself to drive it every day. Mostly because I'd hate to ruin it and I have a rough commute, but also because I've been spoiled by the XJ, it just doesnt compare.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 01:39 PM
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/37367834129...mis&media=COPY

genuine is c2p16879/8 or c2d42387/8

uppers arms i would honestly buy used
 
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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by xalty
https://www.ebay.com/itm/37367834129...mis&media=COPY

genuine is c2p16879/8 or c2d42387/8

uppers arms i would honestly buy used
Great, thank you. Wonder why they don't list 06-09 XJ in the fitment for these? It seems the cross-referenciing could be better for some of these parts.

As for uppers, I'll most likely get the Ford versions from RockAuto. Mevotech CMS401255 looks like the right one. Says they fit 00-05 LS and 02-05 Thunderbird which I've read is correct for the x350.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 01:51 PM
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How's the quality on the Ebay stuff? Was looking through that seller and can't believe how inexpensive most of the arms are. Like I said, was planning on mostly Moog/Mevotech/Delphi from RockAuto so curious how the Ebay stuff compares to them.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 02:15 PM
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Noticed you have an 05 GXP, cool car. I have an 08 Lacrosse Super but planning on selling it. Got it a few months back with 4900 original miles and just can't bring myself to drive it every day. Mostly because I'd hate to ruin it and I have a rough commute, but also because I've been spoiled by the XJ, it just doesnt compare.
PM me when you decide to sell the super. Would rather have your GN Thought about selling the GXP. Not as low miles as your Super, has 79k miles but looks brand new inside and out, runs great and have every service record since new. It's a fun car and in my area have not seen another. But then again I don't see to many older Jaguars either. Most are new but BMW's are everywhere since the factory is so close.

Anyhow the OE Lemforders are $215.58 each. Usually they are $450-500+ ea Here is the link to the page they are listed on. https://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/20...ntrol_arm.html I would buy the OE Lemforders before anything else.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 02:33 PM
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Yea, I found those on Parts Geek. Wonder why so cheap at the moment? Guess I won't complain.

I have been driving my XJ daily since September and have not seen another x350 on the road the entire time, not one! I drive 100 miles daily so its not like I sit at home. These cars are just not around anymore. As for the Buick, trying to figure what its value is. There are no comps for a car like that. It's desireable in a sense, but in the end its just a 4-door sedan with a big motor. Has to be the only one int he world with those miles though. Unless GM held on to one I doubt there's a lower mileage LS4 car in the world.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 87LC2
Great, thank you. Wonder why they don't list 06-09 XJ in the fitment for these? It seems the cross-referenciing could be better for some of these parts.

As for uppers, I'll most likely get the Ford versions from RockAuto. Mevotech CMS401255 looks like the right one. Says they fit 00-05 LS and 02-05 Thunderbird which I've read is correct for the x350.
mevotech is great if you want comebacks 👍 buy used

if you want to play chinese roulette buy the cheapest ones on ebay with the blue crimp rings they are same as moog. trust me
 
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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by xalty
mevotech is great if you want comebacks 👍 buy used

if you want to play chinese roulette buy the cheapest ones on ebay with the blue crimp rings they are same as moog. trust me
I believe you, you always give good info. I defintitely do not want to play Chinese roulette, I can tell you that. I want to do this once and do it right. What would you receommend in that case? All OE? There has to be something comparable, no?

Are you suggesting to buy used, why would I do that? My car only has 45k on it, I would think anything I'd get used would be just as worn out or worse...
 
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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 87LC2
I believe you, you always give good info. I defintitely do not want to play Chinese roulette, I can tell you that. I want to do this once and do it right. What would you receommend in that case? All OE? There has to be something comparable, no?

Are you suggesting to buy used, why would I do that? My car only has 45k on it, I would think anything I'd get used would be just as worn out or worse...
there’s nothing wrong with used you just need to look at wrecked 15 to 23 models.

all of the common suspension wear is caused by the shitty yellow ball joints and bushing boots they used back in the day
 

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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by xalty
there’s nothing wrong with used you just need to look at wrecked 15 to 23 models.

all of the common suspension wear is caused by the shitty yellow ball joints and bushing boots they used back in the day
Oh OK, I misunderstood. So you're saying buy used from the newer XJ/XF models since they had better OE bushings? That makes perfect sense. I'll have to look into that, definitely don't want to buy cheap and have to do it all over again in a couple of years.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 09:45 PM
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Reading through thread.
I am curiouse nobody considers pressing out bushings and ball joints. I know front uppers ball joints are not servicable. Rears seems servicable. I wold think somone would try. I saw only one video in youtube replacing ball joint in steering knuckle. Did anybody pressed them in rears?
 
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Old Jan 18, 2023 | 10:28 PM
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I believe the rear arms are all aluminum castings rather than being forged. In my experience its not wise to press out and replace bushings in aluminum castings as they are prone to cracking. Even if they don't crack they can be weakened by the process and crack when put into service. With that said, I'm sure people have done it and been fine but its generally not recommended.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 06:32 AM
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Pressed mine out & in, you will need a larger recieving cup.
Than in the ones that the standard press set has in it.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingrider
Pressed mine out & in, you will need a larger recieving cup.
Than in the ones that the standard press set has in it.
I do have a giant press that I bought when I had to do my x308 XJR suspension bushings, just heard it was not recommended to do on the x350 due to the cast aluminum arms. Might be something to think about.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 11:04 AM
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I wonder how many controll arms on e-bay have bushings pressed out/in?
Can former techs comment? What was core charge for controll arms say 10 years ago?
Just thinking...
 
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Old Jan 19, 2023 | 08:52 PM
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If you have a press you could certainly save a little over $200 total pressing out and in both arms. Or spend a little more and be done a heck of a lot faster. Guess it depends on budget and value of your time. If you buy new you now have backups to press out whenever you like.
 
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