does chamber-changing affect toe ?
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The shop manual section 2 discusses how to adjust all of these:
Toe is set by adjusting the links at the end of the steering rack arms.
Caster and camber are adjusted at the ends of the lower links. There is a note that adjusting caster or camber will affect toe.
I just tried to post it for you...the text worked, but the pictures dropped...sorry...
Camber and Caster Adjustment
NOTE:
The camber and caster adjustment for the left-hand side is shown, the procedure for
adjusting the right-hand side is similar.
NOTE:
This procedure must be carried out using a 4-post ramp.
1. Check the camber and caster settings. Follow the equipment manufacturers instructions.
2.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Loosen the front lower arm lock nut.
3.
NOTE:
Adjustments to the caster will affect the toe settings. Therefore, the caster and toe may
need to be adjusted at the same time to achieve the correct settings.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Rotate the caster adjustment cam bolt to adjust the caster.
4. Check the caster settings. Follow the equipment manufacturers instructions. Adjust as
necessary.
5.
NOTE:
Make sure the caster adjustment cam bolt does not rotate.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Tighten the caster adjustment cam bolt lock nut.
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Tighten to 175 Nm.
6.
NOTE:
Adjustments to the camber will affect the toe settings. Therefore, the camber and toe may
need to be adjusted at the same time to achieve the correct settings.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Loosen the tie-rod end lock nut.
·
Clean and lubricate the lock nut and tie-rod threads.
7.
CAUTION: Do not allow the tie-rod end or steering gear boot to twist when the
tie-rod is rotated. Failure to follow this instruction may result in damage to the vehicle.
NOTE:
Left-hand, shown right-hand similar.
Rotate the tie-rod to adjust the toe.
8.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Loosen the rear lower arm lock nut.
9.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Rotate the camber adjustment cam bolt to adjust the camber.
10. Check the camber and toe settings. Follow the equipment manufacturers instructions.
Adjust as necessary.
11.
NOTE:
Make sure the camber adjustment cam bolt does not rotate.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Tighten the rear lower arm lock nut.
·
Tighten to 175 Nm.
12.
NOTE:
Make sure the tie-rod or tie-rod end does not rotate.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Tighten the tie-rod end lock nut.
·
Tighten to 100 Nm.
Front Toe Adjustment (57.65.01)
1. Start the engine and center the steering wheel.
2. Turn the engine off, and hold the steering wheel in the ' straight ahead' position by
attaching a rigid link from the steering wheel to the brake pedal.
3. Check the toe settings. Follow the equipment manufacturers instructions.
4.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Loosen the tie-rod end lock nut.
·
Clean and lubricate the lock nut and tie-rod threads.
5.
CAUTION: Do not allow the tie-rod end or steering gear boot to twist when the
tie-rod is rotated. Failure to follow this instruction may result in damage to the vehicle.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Rotate the tie-rod to adjust the toe setting.
Toe is set by adjusting the links at the end of the steering rack arms.
Caster and camber are adjusted at the ends of the lower links. There is a note that adjusting caster or camber will affect toe.
I just tried to post it for you...the text worked, but the pictures dropped...sorry...
Camber and Caster Adjustment
NOTE:
The camber and caster adjustment for the left-hand side is shown, the procedure for
adjusting the right-hand side is similar.
NOTE:
This procedure must be carried out using a 4-post ramp.
1. Check the camber and caster settings. Follow the equipment manufacturers instructions.
2.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Loosen the front lower arm lock nut.
3.
NOTE:
Adjustments to the caster will affect the toe settings. Therefore, the caster and toe may
need to be adjusted at the same time to achieve the correct settings.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Rotate the caster adjustment cam bolt to adjust the caster.
4. Check the caster settings. Follow the equipment manufacturers instructions. Adjust as
necessary.
5.
NOTE:
Make sure the caster adjustment cam bolt does not rotate.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Tighten the caster adjustment cam bolt lock nut.
·
Tighten to 175 Nm.
6.
NOTE:
Adjustments to the camber will affect the toe settings. Therefore, the camber and toe may
need to be adjusted at the same time to achieve the correct settings.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Loosen the tie-rod end lock nut.
·
Clean and lubricate the lock nut and tie-rod threads.
7.
CAUTION: Do not allow the tie-rod end or steering gear boot to twist when the
tie-rod is rotated. Failure to follow this instruction may result in damage to the vehicle.
NOTE:
Left-hand, shown right-hand similar.
Rotate the tie-rod to adjust the toe.
8.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Loosen the rear lower arm lock nut.
9.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Rotate the camber adjustment cam bolt to adjust the camber.
10. Check the camber and toe settings. Follow the equipment manufacturers instructions.
Adjust as necessary.
11.
NOTE:
Make sure the camber adjustment cam bolt does not rotate.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Tighten the rear lower arm lock nut.
·
Tighten to 175 Nm.
12.
NOTE:
Make sure the tie-rod or tie-rod end does not rotate.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Tighten the tie-rod end lock nut.
·
Tighten to 100 Nm.
Front Toe Adjustment (57.65.01)
1. Start the engine and center the steering wheel.
2. Turn the engine off, and hold the steering wheel in the ' straight ahead' position by
attaching a rigid link from the steering wheel to the brake pedal.
3. Check the toe settings. Follow the equipment manufacturers instructions.
4.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Loosen the tie-rod end lock nut.
·
Clean and lubricate the lock nut and tie-rod threads.
5.
CAUTION: Do not allow the tie-rod end or steering gear boot to twist when the
tie-rod is rotated. Failure to follow this instruction may result in damage to the vehicle.
NOTE:
Left-hand shown, right-hand similar.
Rotate the tie-rod to adjust the toe setting.
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Shims on the rear.
Info here plus expert info from "Brutal"
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-camber-48316/
Info here plus expert info from "Brutal"
https://www.jaguarforums.com/forum/x...-camber-48316/
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that advice would not appear to apply in the case of the X350 since the rear suspension is not the same as on earlier years.
if camber is adjustable it would likely be by means of eccentric flanged bolt heads at the pivots of either the upper or lower arms.
you would have to confirm that by referring to the factory manual or other reliable source.
if camber is adjustable it would likely be by means of eccentric flanged bolt heads at the pivots of either the upper or lower arms.
you would have to confirm that by referring to the factory manual or other reliable source.
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Toe only ajustment in rear using the rear tie rods (aka adjusting links), caster and camber is adjusted with lower a arm eccentrics. Toe in front is adjusted with tie rods ends. Proceedure is rear setting first, the front caster/camber and finally front toe. Then make sure rear is still where you set it. Check front deflection in front before you finish to make sure you dont toe out too much while driving(aka mercedes pressor bar or your long arms)
changing caster or camber for any reason will always change the toe and anytime you replace suspension pieces you should check and adjust alignment. A alignment is always cheaper than tires, period
changing caster or camber for any reason will always change the toe and anytime you replace suspension pieces you should check and adjust alignment. A alignment is always cheaper than tires, period
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I just studied the manual in detail. Sorry to say, I can't tell. It implies you can, using the lower arm inner bolts...but it doesn't expressly state that you can. The excert I posted above is under the title of "suspension", at the front of the chassis manual. After that, it splits into specific sections for front and rear. That implies the above excert applies to both front and rear suspensions. But, I have not tried, so it very well may be another mis-labeled service manual section, of which there are many.
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