Ok so I am going the route that many have before me in removing the headliner to get at the sunshade.

Sunshade got wet. Lining material sagged.

Researched this forum and could not find certain details.

Like how do you remove the electrical connector from the sun visor?

I was hoping for a connector above the liner but no luck.

Also no mention of the top connector on the door pillar trim going in opposite direction to the three clips spaced down the trim. So I snapped mine at the tip as I did not see it when pulling up on the trim.

Also the liner at the rear just started sagging yesterday. So will re glue the entire thing now as well as the sunshade.

 

Ok found the connector thoroughly wrapped up in tape above the headliner.

Even knowing about the 4th clip at the top of the pillar trim I broke it any way getting the other front pillar trim loose.

No way could I free it without breaking it.

 

I cant believe with all the headliners that have been redone on the forum, that nobody has a solution to remove the door post cover without breaking it?
With all the help that Jackra has given us in the past, somebody has to have some help for him.
I do have bad news. You won't be able to re-glue the old liner back. After 2 Jags and 3 Range Rover headliner jobs, I know. It will turn to the worst goo you have ever worked with. But new liner material isn't that much $.
Mark

 

I came to that conclusion last night while thinking about it Mark. My headliner material without the foam backing is almost transparent.
Glue will show thru for sure so will order some foam backed headliner today.

I do not think those tabs that broke are a big deal. We will see.

John

 

Not if you can still order new ones, but strange how some parts no longer available. Or not offered at all, like the internal seals on the intake manifold.

 

There are two complete front pillars trims on Ebay. One with an intact top clip and the other broken.

 

Ok got the headliner and sunshade/sunroof assembly back in place. My attempt at recovering not terrific with a few creases here and there.

Looks a heck of a lot better than the sagging headliner.

Getting all the old foam/glue off was very time consuming.

I have read that a steamer might help.. we will see later.

However.

I broke the sunroof mechanism somehow!!

I did take the glass out.

The little plastic sliders that fit in the groove either side broke.

I ordered the Lincoln repair kit mentioned in another thread but there is no way I am going to tackle the repair job anytime soon.

Maybe in the Winter.

I will try to fix the glass so that it seals. I only use the sunroof rarely.

Those tabs on the front pillars glued in place with superglue.

 

Silicon glue it shut, that way it won't leak till you pull it off for the repair.

 

I was thinking exactly that.

 

Don't use Silicon. It will be a bear to get off. It will stick to the seal too well, and ruin it, also maybe the paint. Use a product called "seal and peel". It is a removable sealant sort of like the stuff that holds a new credit card on the paper. It can be found at home centers (HD). It's used as a temp seal for house windows. When your ready to remove, just pull and it will zip right off.

 

I ended up being able to position the sunroof in the closed position.

The two torx screws either side at the rear allowed me to position the glass as high as possible. Then the two either side at the front were used to prop up the "flanges" that they would normally screw thru.

Then using an allen wrench in the motor adjuster I could make a final adjustment.

So from the outside it looks as if it is closed as normal.

 

Regular silicone can damage your paint, never use it on a vehicle painted surface.