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1996 XJ6 - 4HP22 Trans flaring from 1st - 2nd, opinions?

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Old Nov 25, 2021 | 08:55 PM
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Posted this question a while ago before I properly introduced myself in the introduction section of the forums - apologies!

I have a 1996 Jaguar XJ6 with the 3.2L - that would mean it has the 4HP22 transmission.
200,000ks approx.

The transmission will flare from 1st-2nd gear in these situations:
1. When cold, going up a slight incline, almost guaranteed to slip if at least 25% throttle is applied.
2. When going around a corner, and putting your foot down as your turning, at least 60% throttle.

She's had a trans service, so it's not the fluid or fluid level.

I never really gave her the beans totally, but she can slip if a lot of power is applied.
If warmed up and driving in a civilised manner, she won't flare at all.

I'm guessing this is a clutch pack issue - anyone have any ideas?

I'm considering having the transmission rebuilt, which I think will run me around the 4 - 5k mark.
Before that, I was going to do another trans fluid flush and give that Lucas Stop Slip magical oil a go, just to see if I have any luck with it.

Interested to hear other peoples opinions on what it could be, and what you would do if this was happening to you.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2021 | 11:37 PM
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In your quest to give her the beans again the are shift solenoids and the transmission connector you can look at before putting money into a transmission fluid change

For you ZF4HP 22 version see page X

jagrepair.com/images/AutoRepairPhotos/jagxj1996.pdf
 

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Old Nov 26, 2021 | 12:10 AM
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This file below page 103 for shift solenoid package

it takes a while to load

4HP22-4HP22.pdf - Google Drive

 
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Old Nov 26, 2021 | 12:13 AM
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Technical issues and repair guidelines on this page

4HP22 Transmission parts, repair guidelines, problems, manuals (go4trans.com)

 
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Old Nov 26, 2021 | 12:31 AM
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See bottom of page 1 for solenoid kit E7 and E9

pdfc-4hp24-22.pdf (zf.com)
 
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Old Nov 26, 2021 | 12:48 AM
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See part # E421 as the shift solenoids and you might change all 4while you are there

Parker Hannifin is a good company so this would be a good part #

They would manufacture some of the hydrauiic components on our aircraft

ZF4HP22 _24.pdf (parker.com)
 

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Old Nov 26, 2021 | 01:02 AM
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ZF4HP22 used on P38 Range Rover

 
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Old Nov 26, 2021 | 01:50 AM
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See page 24 and on

zf book (bmwe34.net)
 
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Old Nov 26, 2021 | 09:47 AM
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4hp22h has no solenoids
 
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Old Nov 26, 2021 | 10:20 AM
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And no transmission ECU as well as a transmission connector

They get that mixed up between the 22 and 24 on the internet part source websites as well

And I am assuming there is some kind of fluid logic to eventually through a valve ( s ) to provide muscle fluid pressure to acuate the A , B , C drums to engage

That would require a definite open / close porting of the muscle pressure

This would be in the form of a hydro shutoff valve ( s )

Which you may be able to un gummy up like the ports and spring valves in the fluid logic module behind to Trans oil pan

We used a variable speed transmission between the jet engines and GENERATOR to supply a GENERATOR rotation speed for 400 HZ AC aircraft power
 

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