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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 08:48 PM
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I am in the middle of removing my alternator. I removed the upper and lower bolt. The alternator is pivoting but will not come out of the bracket. There seems to be a sleeve that is going in between the alt bracket and the alternator (where the bolt fits through)which is preventing me from removing the alternator.
This sleeve is actually sticking out of the bracket a bit which makes be think that this sleeve should be entirely in the alternator. Am I correct about this (I will know tomorrow after I pick up the replacement alternator)?
How can I move this sleeve so the alternator can come out.
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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 08:55 PM
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The shouldered bushing you see on the fwd leg is only as thick as that leg

The bushing stays in place

Alternator pulls out from top only

with the bolt removed a long screwdriver will pry the alternator out from being simply pinched

Before installing the alternator have the new alternator spin tested at the store , new out of box reliability is questionable

Been there , done that
 

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Old Aug 18, 2020 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Parker 2
The shouldered bushing you see on the fwd leg is only as thick as that leg

The bushing stays in place

Alternator pulls out from top only

with the bolt removed a long screwdriver will pry the alternator out from being simply pinched

Before installing the alternator have the new alternator spin tested at the store , new out of box reliability is questionable

Been there , done that
It sure looks like that bushing is going from the alternator mounting bracket to the alternator itself. I am going to trust you and conclude that it only looked like the bushing was preventing the alternating from coming out. It got dark before I could really try to pry out that alternator but tomorrow I will certainly try.
And yes I will have the alternator benched tested before I leave the store. BTDT once too many times.
Thanks for your help.
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Old Aug 19, 2020 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Parker 2
The shouldered bushing you see on the fwd leg is only as thick as that leg
I did not know that you were so serious about that statement. Today armed with a pry bar I went to the Jag, I looked at the bushing and thought how could Parker be correct? But I do respect the wisdom of folks on this website and I tried the pry bar first and the alternator easily came out of its bracket. There is literally no space between the bushing and the alternator!
I am taking a break from actually removing the alternator from the car now.
Well back to work!
Jomo
BTW, the replacement alternator checked out fine. I just hope that it is not intermittently fine.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2020 | 05:35 PM
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The Lockheed L - 1011 airliner was the same way in parts interchangeability

This is my first Jaguar

You might have to file off some material before the new alternator gets in the way

The 2 small wires to the noise suppressor are polarity dependent for it to work
 
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Old Aug 19, 2020 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Parker 2
The Lockheed L - 1011 airliner was the same way in parts interchangeability

This is my first Jaguar

You might have to file off some material before the new alternator gets in the way

The 2 small wires to the noise suppressor are polarity dependent for it to work
The replacement alternator went right in. Thanks for your help!!
 
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Old Aug 20, 2020 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jomo
I am in the middle of removing my alternator. I removed the upper and lower bolt. The alternator is pivoting but will not come out of the bracket. There seems to be a sleeve that is going in between the alt bracket and the alternator (where the bolt fits through)which is preventing me from removing the alternator.
This sleeve is actually sticking out of the bracket a bit which makes be think that this sleeve should be entirely in the alternator. Am I correct about this (I will know tomorrow after I pick up the replacement alternator)?
How can I move this sleeve so the alternator can come out.
Thanks!
Jomo
Hello

I take it you're talking about Part No. 2, below.

Try taking a tap and threading it in by hand just enough for it to 'bite', then pull it out while wiggling the alternator to take off the strain.

If not, try passing the bolt through from the opposite side while keeping it cocked, so the threaded tip will also bite into the bushing and push it out.

Regards

Richard

 
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Old Aug 20, 2020 | 08:56 PM
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My understanding is that the bush, part number 2 in the diagram, is a tight fit in the mounting bracket but can move a little to take up clearance with the alternator when the mounting bolt is tightened. You should be able to force it in the 'out' direction without too much trouble, this would also allow for replacing an alternator with a slightly wider mounting.

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Jeff.
 
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