Well I got my rear shocks replaced, that was quite the chore but now my starter motor has been staying engaged a little at start up. I really don't want to damage the ring gear, that would be a much bigger job, any tips on replacing the starter? I have searched the forum for posts and it does not look like an easy job.

I just thought, could the solenoid on top of the starter be replaced on its own?

 

The 3 solenoid bolts that are glued into the starter motor that attach it to the starter motor point with the tails aft .You have o remove the whole starter assembly . Them pointing aft and are blocked by easy access from the top ( only way to the solenoid only replacement ) . the 3 bolts are glued in so you probably couldn't get enough torque on the philips heads to break them loose anyway . I had to cut them off sacrificing the solenoid anyway cutting through it with a round cut off wheel . There is the possibility of applying heat to the solenoid to melt the glue but I was not successful .

The good news in my example at 110 k miles ( assuming original starter ) is it's a common Bosch 110 series starter motor with robust brushes with plenty of wear left at 1/2 life and only required sanding some tarnish off the commuter and cutting back the gaps .

By the solenoid staying engaged longer then you would want has 2 possibilities / a problem with the solenoid jamming requiring replacement or the small wire control signal can be tested and resolved negating the need to remove the solenoid .

With the possibility of the starter solenoid relay sticking closed by the contact points fusing , have you swapped if out ?

Electrical jumper test hollowing ........

Editing , my taco low light is flickering

 

Are you sure it's the starter and not the upper timing chain??

bob

 

I'm back , I never meet a taco I didn't like .

I'm guessing you can run the engine initially and warm up the oil increasing the viscosity and check valve entrapment of pressure and expansion ( If equipped with the newer tensioner ) and then starting the engine again seeing if the noise duplicates . Assuming the starter is not a intermittent issue the noise may go away unless the starter is heat related complicating this test interpretation .

Could the tensioner timing chain noise be localized by a ratchet extension up against the ear ?

Where is the engine serial number if the newer tensioner was installed by the factory during production ?

Thanks , Parker , time or a nap after my woosy medication .

 

I have replaced dozens of tensioners but I do not remember any updated ones on the later cars.

Maybe they installed them subsequent as per the engine numbers.

Check the TSB

 

Well, the problem was taken care of today when I had the starter replaced as well as my oil changed. The rebuilt starter spins a lot faster than the old one and I have no more noise from the starter gear not fully disengaging and slightly hitting the ring gear. It would only do it half the time but it would make for a cringeworthy experience, very unjaguar like.

 

Do you have the brand of starter you used ?

I can't find any good parts , solenoids

I found on my original starter the special type brass bushing in the nose of the starter was missing . This caused the small gear to be pushed " out " from flywhell in the radial direction , bad noise I never liked .

 

Lady P. I used a Napa brand starter because I know someone who works there and I got his discount. My mechanic says he uses Bosch brand rebuilt starters because he has found them to be the most reliable.

 

Napa it is then . The original starter is a Bosch 110 series and makes sense . I have 3 starters in the garage with that many different solenoids that failed to work as I understood the system

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...ter+motor,4152

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...178412&jsn=379

It can't be me ........

 

Well the Napa brand rebuilt starter did not work out. Within a couple of days of installation it would refuse to turn over and I had to give the starter motor a thump on its side with a broom handle and this would free it up. It must have a bad solenoid. The guys at work thought it was funny when I told them about my "starter stick" I was carrying with me. I had supplied my own starter to my mechanic so there is no warranty through them and I am on the hook for a second labor charge if I have them do it again. Napa will refund the price of the starter and my insurance will cover the price of the tow if the car does not start. When I called my mechanic he told me he had problems in the past with some rebuilds and now he used Bosch brand rebuild starters.

This has taught me a lesson on trying to save some money, if I had let my mechanic do the whole job including supplying the part I would not be making this post.