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Hello folks - i have recently become caretaker to a new-to-me '95 XJR. Very happy that the car is fairly clean & not rusty as I've sadly grown used to that here in the midwest. At any rate, the car is gorgeous, even when it's broken. It seems to start and idle well, power seems fairly consistent but the O2 sensors in bank 1 seem to be having a conniption as you'll see in the screen grab from my OBDII Fusion app:
As you can see the pre-cat sensor in bank 1 is more or less stuck at about 1.3V, and the post-cat sensor isn't even trying. I figured if it was an intake vacuum leak, both banks would be doing weird things... I had previously read about the potential for the exhaust manifolds to crack, so i popped the chrome beauty cover off on my lunch today. Well well well....
Bank 1:
Bank 2 not quite as bad:
Gonna try to patch these up at least temporarily to see if it resolves anything. Not sure how long they've been like that, but if the ECU has been dumping fuel into bank 1, it's possible the O2 sensors are toast anyway. We shall see!
I can assure you that your oxygen sensor needs to be replaced. When was the last time you replaced them?
The crack in the exhaust wouldn't cause such an extreme failure.
I'd start at the oxygen sensor. (and I'd change them all) For now you can try to use Blue Magic Quiksteel High Temp Crack Repair....at least temporarily?
Look for EGR and secondary air manifold inlets if yours has them
There should be a couple of pairs in Kansas City to save on shipping
I need to extract a secondary air tube for myself and was looking at the donor car manifolds last time I was there
The O2 sensors are a titanium base and not the more common type as may be installed and your device can't read both types ( as they function differently ) at once
Bosch has a connector ready sensor replacement., Denso is the original and looks like the price came way down
Yeah I’m going to try the QuikSteel goop and see what happens. Then move on to the O2 sensors. From researching prior posts, I’m aware the sensors in these cars are… “unique” hahaha. I have no idea when/if they were ever replaced. Car has 150k on the clock. Jagbits appears to have sensors available. The less expensive Bosch 13789 appears to be unobtainium at the moment so Jagbits may be my best option for now. Will let you folks know how things turn out. I appreciate the help!
Only 2 of the 4 O2 sensors are used for engine regulation
The other 2 sensors are used as a comparison for Cat efficiency CEL code flag
So this gives you a swapping option
Front to back only and not bank A to B ( 1 to 2 terminology )
Keep careful track of original installation positions as this effects engine regulation
Quick Steel I think requires heat to cure so running the engine to do so may blow out before cure
The copper crush washers seem from reading to make a difference and new washers can be obtained from a cheep spark plug of 12 mm thread size different then your your spark plug 14 mm thread size
Do not swap sensors. Just ditch them. Parker is correct though, that the upstream ones are only there as a check. If there's no Check Engine Light, they are probably fine, but if you're not going to replace them, I would not touch them. They are on borrowed time as well, but may as well roll with it.
Yep that would make sense. One step at a time with this thing. It’s staying parked until I can address some of this because I don’t want to destroy the cats if it’s dumping fuel. I appreciate the insight. I did order 2 of the Walker brand sensors. Car currently has Platinum “+4” plugs in it so those are also getting tossed in the garbage and replaced with the plain old Champion Coppers just like the Land Rovers.
Ok, so - update.... the Walker O2 sensors on the Amazon link are like 4 weeks out, attempted an order at another vendor who claimed they were in stock but was refunded 3 days later due to no stock. Wound up finding a single used OE or OEM one on eBay and took a gamble with that. The cracks in the exhaust manifolds have been gooped with the QuikSteel stuff. Giving that about 48 hrs to cure since it's not quite summer here yet. We'll see how long that lasts. Spark plugs (RC12YC) came in as well and i swapped those out too. I'm not starting the car until i get the O2 sensor replaced.
Started working on the O2 sensor today - Post-cat sensor in bank 1. Oddly, it was a bit loose in the bung - not sure if that would have affected anything - but out it comes since i already have the replacement. Messing with the wiring behind the engine was actually the biggest pain. Once i finally made it to the connectors at the firewall, I referenced the photos below from a prior thread here that I'd saved. Can someone confirm that what is in these photos is correct? It seems to contradict the diagram Parker 7 posted above if you go by the color codes. I busted out the labelmaker and I'm going to label all these stupid things while i'm doing this.
Wiring for the rears?
Wiring for the fronts?
Currently, the sensor I removed from the Bank 1 Sensor 2 position was connected to the connector at the firewall with the 'blue' wire. Which Parker 7's diagram would say is correct, but the photo above would say is incorrect. I did also trace the pre-cat sensors and they match with the photo above. So now I'm unsure if those are connected properly or if they're reversed. Would like to confirm what is correct because someone may have goofed up the connections previously. Or - if the "re-orientation" procedure had been done previously, would it even matter? Or should i just leave things alone and reconnect the replacement sensor as-is and see what happens?
Yes, it is possible that someone had switched things up before and used the Jag Tool to reorient the sensors, so the wiring diagram is certainly not foolproof.
A loose oxygen sensor could certainly cause the problems you were having.
Well, possibly a bit of progress. I got the replacement used O2 sensor connected - i didn't swap anything else around at this time. Repaired a steering rack boot and rebuilt the rear trans mount too.
Got the car back on the ground and went for a drive. Still starts and idles fine. Waiting to see if the CEL comes back but at least it appears there is life in the Bank 1 sensors now per the OBD Fusion screenshot below.... gonna keep driving it and see what happens. Rear diff is on its way out so i can't go too far but that's a whole 'nother post.
If the CEL comes back, i'll start looking at electrical connections to clean and possibly dig out the homemade smoke tester...