What is this switch and how to remove it

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Oct 16, 2022 | 01:41 PM
  #81  
Remove BPM with the large round button on the arrow in the pic with a butter knife to get started and a trim removal tool to finish pulling the button out

slides down out of carrier rack

You may not be able to get the trim tool in there with the glove compartment in place

The BPM connector is the one on the cars right side as the BPM is mounted

It has 2 pinch release tabs on the long edge of the ribbon connector , The connector has plenty of wire length

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Oct 16, 2022 | 01:59 PM
  #82  
Got a meter on it

The way the not in park switch works is when you move the shift lever out of the park gate the switch closes so its a normal ( relaxed ) closed or NC switch

Back in the gate switch opens , switch depressed

Now to look if it can be checked at the large connector under the arrow saving you some work
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Oct 16, 2022 | 02:27 PM
  #83  
Yes , it can be checked at the large connector on the removed loose connector end

So no need to bother the BPM

Remove battery positive cable

Move the shift lever out of park detent and hunt down the connector sockets until you find a closed meter reading ( I used the engine ECU ground strap bolt for a ground point to clamp on )

Once you find a closed circuit move the shift lever back into park detent and watch meter reading open
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Oct 16, 2022 | 05:09 PM
  #84  
Quote: Got a meter on it

The way the not in park switch works is when you move the shift lever out of the park gate the switch closes so its a normal ( relaxed ) closed or NC switch

Back in the gate switch opens , switch depressed



I that case I've got it backwards
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Oct 16, 2022 | 05:13 PM
  #85  
Did you change the switch as some people put in a NO switch

Let me double check my findings

the socket was more toward the center of the connector
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Oct 16, 2022 | 05:25 PM
  #86  
My statement of the break out sheet interpitation is a NO switch in post 31

This is different than my meter observation
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Oct 16, 2022 | 07:01 PM
  #87  
I replace the In Park switch, I have it wired so in park the circuit is closed,( completed)
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Oct 16, 2022 | 10:54 PM
  #88  
There is no way that you could have connected the switch wires backwards because it doesn't make a difference or physically installed the switch package with the lever in the wrong orientation

So this leaves the type of switch NC or NO which can be stamped on the switch but not always or hidden from view

I won't be double checking my meter findings until morning
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Oct 16, 2022 | 11:42 PM
  #89  
The switch I found could be wired either way, It has 3 blades on it , I wired it in the closed pos when in Park., It may be a couple days before i can go back and fix it
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Oct 17, 2022 | 12:12 AM
  #90  
I frogot about the 3 blade version , lets revisit it after

I forgot about the 3 blade version , lets revisit again after I recheck my meter readings with the original switch installed in a working X300 starter system







i recheck my meter ffindings
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Oct 17, 2022 | 03:15 PM
  #91  
Ok, Changed wiring on Not in Park switch , In park I have 12v on blue wire on one side of switch nothing on black wire, Shift out of park no longer have voltage on blue wire, Have to get back to work check back later


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Oct 17, 2022 | 04:32 PM
  #92  
You seem to be correct

The blue feeler voltage goes to 0 since it has a ground path through the closed switch to the car frame , at this path the circuit is ground seeking and has satisfied that

The term not in park switch in the electrical language could be and most likely when the shift lever is not in park the switch makes or closes

We are use to our airliner schematics being drawn in the switches relaxed position as a reference point and then have to determine how it works as a activated system

Automotive doesn't seem to have a set of rules especially American cars
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Oct 18, 2022 | 01:47 PM
  #93  
Quote: Just woke from a nap , so you found the BPM

The BPM is the control center of the starter circuit , it must get all the agreements on the schematics prints left side before it will provide a command ground to close the starter solenoid relay

The BPM has the ribbon connectors on the back side , look for corrosion from the leaking climate control air ducts , I think if remembering correctly it slides down from the carrier after removing some screws

TPM ?

My BPM is exposed so let me put a meter on the Blue / Slate wire to the not in park switch ( on the left side of the below print ) to see how it behaves

You should be able to take the FC1 - 33 at the BPM Red / Orange wire ( on the right side of the print ) to car frame ground and the starter should engage and rotate but may not run the engine , this will prove the rotary position switch

It's dark now and the dark scares me

There is some confusion on how the not in park switch is integrated into the starter circuit let alone the lights

EDITING









Well, I jumped orange & red on FC! plug to ground heard a click and hum, Then I jumped the forth pin in on the plug as you look at the BPM it is a green wire heard some noise sounded like under the dash, plugged yellow connecter back in I now have no dash gages or warning lights on either side of the dash
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Oct 18, 2022 | 02:05 PM
  #94  
the click you heard should be the starter solenoid relay closing

the hum is the starter motor wanting to rotate,

the small wire on the solenoid tight ?

heavy battery cable connections tight on the starter solenoid ,and the right wheel well terminal post ?

do not over tighten the battery positive post bolt

don't understand the green wire statement
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Oct 19, 2022 | 12:28 PM
  #95  
Quote: Well, I jumped orange & red on FC! plug to ground heard a click and hum, Then I jumped the forth pin in on the plug as you look at the BPM it is a green wire heard some noise sounded like under the dash, plugged yellow connecter back in I now have no dash gages or warning lights on either side of the dash

"don't understand the green wire statement"

Looking at the diagram you see how the rows are offset? Well the plug is squared off so I found the orange and black wire on the plug but looking at the fig i realized the port you have circled is on the BPM, The wire on the plug that lined up with that port is green so I took that one to ground also.
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Oct 19, 2022 | 12:59 PM
  #96  
I see what you' re saying

It doesn't help that the BPM back has the 2 connectors labeled as FC2

The LHD and RHD has to do with the steering wheel as components have to move over to the other side and go through other connectors on the way

You probably blew one of the 2 fuses on the left heel board fuse box that powers the instrument cluster and you won't lose the milage value which is somehow kept

Ask me how I know

Looking to what socket 16 Green / Yellow wire goes to

see page 22

www.jagrepair.com/images/AutoRepairPhotos/X300 1996 LWB.pdf
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Oct 20, 2022 | 02:37 PM
  #97  
OOOHHHHHH,We just made a huge advancement, I was checking fuses for instrument cluster, Saw a circuit for "Transmission Ignition Control" It was blown I changed it and it fired right up ,twice, I still have check eng light tho,
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Oct 20, 2022 | 02:41 PM
  #98  
So the engine started ?

The CEL may just be a reset by a code reader at the auto parts store as they still do it if you have a light

Write down the code because I myself always forget
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Oct 20, 2022 | 03:13 PM
  #99  
Quote: So the engine started ?

The CEL may just be a reset by a code reader at the auto parts store as they still do it if you have a light

Write down the code because I myself always forget
Yes it starts,,, Whoooo Hoooooo, But now the question is, Isn't one of the fans supposed to come on with key on? It was getting warm & blowing hot air out the dash, I saw top fan turn about 1/4 turn then stop,,,,, I bought this car in this condition so not overly familiar with it also steering column didn't go back into stow pos
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Oct 20, 2022 | 03:24 PM
  #100  
The was a TSB on the fan operating sequence

To test the fans remove the 3 wire connector on the lower aft left on the radiator

Put a paper clip from 1 white wire to the black and you will get 1 mode

remove the clip and place between the other white wire and the same black wire and you will get the second mode

This is a low amperage section of the fans circuit so no arcing hazard

The steering column is either the in and out switch in the ignition switch stuck or the column motor position sensor gumming up dragging the motor down

Is it the up / down or extend mode ?

A TSB on this motor also
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