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Old May 22, 2012 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by socal1200r
Another option that I've heard should work are the 5x120 wheels that are common on BMWs. 'Course the BMW logos would be removed!

These wheels would work, since they're 16x7, +20mm offset, with a 74mm hub opening:


I'd prefer these wheels (16x7, +20), but the hub opening is just a pube too small, at 72.56 (I believe the stock Jag ones are 73mm):
You could try getting a decent picture of the car and then photoshopping your wheels on it for a rough idea. eg, Felgen Katalog + X300 =



That last wheel you posted miiiiight look OK, but no improvement over the dimple IMO.
 

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Old May 22, 2012 | 08:37 PM
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Nice job on the photoshopping of the wheels! I'm an Atari guy in a Play Station world, so something like that is beyond my limited skills, lol!

If I can get a set of wheels on the cheap, in 16", I might go that route, since I just had a new set of 225/60-16 tires mounted on the dimple rims. I'm pretty sure the 5x120 bolt pattern that is common to BMWs will work, it's that center hub opening that's the main limiting factor. I might save my pennies until after I drive my Saab cross-country though, that's a higher priority right now.

Well, that and getting a new shift knob (plain black leather for $20, or a piano black wood one with custom emblem for $90?), lol...
 
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Old May 23, 2012 | 05:35 AM
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I dunno what that other one you posted is.
 
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Old May 23, 2012 | 06:02 AM
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FWIW, this one

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Old May 23, 2012 | 09:01 PM
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Wow, me likee! The 5-spokes in the top pic are from an IROC Camaro, 16x8, with zero offset. I think the BMW wheels are 16x8, with a +20mm offset, so they won't stick out as far. I'm liking how those 5-spokes look, but my main concern would be that with the 0 offset, they'd stick too far out, and would hit the bottom of the fenders. I could probably get those IROC wheels for $100, so it might be worth the experiment.
 
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Old May 23, 2012 | 11:24 PM
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Not only that, they are running perhaps 50 series rubber instead of rubber bands. Better ride.

Please be sure to come back and report on the fit.
 

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Old May 24, 2012 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by plums
FWIW, this one
Wait... That wasn't sarcasm?

I don't know what you guys are smoking, but I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Personally, I thought those BMW wheels matched better than expected. They certainly look better on the X300 than the cars they were designed for.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 12:55 AM
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Wait... That wasn't sarcasm?

I don't know what you guys are smoking, but I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Nope. And 16 inch wheels + 50 series rubber are just right. The 18 inch + 40 series are so harsh.

Then there was the used car dealer who had Jaguar asteroids on a BMW 3 series. Looked great.

Thanks for being a great photo shopper
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by plums
Nope. And 16 inch wheels + 50 series rubber are just right. The 18 inch + 40 series are so harsh.

Then there was the used car dealer who had Jaguar asteroids on a BMW 3 series. Looked great.

Thanks for being a great photo shopper
The bimmer wheels were also 16"s. I think my scaling was perhaps a little off. Original:

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Not such great photoshopper. Maybe I should re-do... I was trying to find a bigger 'model' car image taken at a convenient angle (so that I didn't have to apply perspective effects to the wheels ), and with the car painted at least some roughly similar colour to the OP's car. But they were all small like the above.
 

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Old May 24, 2012 | 02:15 AM
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I did it again with better scaling, but I had to use the red car:

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Again, pretty crude, but if you squint your eyes a bit they look alright.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 03:12 AM
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The pictures are also good for visualising what blackout window trim would look like for North American types.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 03:52 AM
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The pictures are also good for visualising what blackout window trim would look like for North American types.
That isn't blackout trim, that's half-n-half. This is the full black: http://www.bmgbuk.com/images/galleri...r-xjr-side.jpg

Can someone tell me, was it an option to get Dimple wheels without the lowlights (as per the wheels in my last post), or is it just that people have had them reconditioned?


(I'm talking about the dark grey accents: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-X30...-/120853691383)
 

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Old May 24, 2012 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Oubadah
The IROC wheels look a little trailer park to me. Just not diggin it. Maybe on an S-10 pickup.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mgb4tim
The IROC wheels look a little trailer park to me. Just not diggin it. Maybe on an S-10 pickup.
Yeah, I'm not 100 percent sold on those either. Only reason I bookmarked them was they have the exact same bolt pattern, in 16", so I can easily swap my brand new tires over. I don't really like the Jag dimple wheels because they full like a dish. I like wheels that are more open, like the IROC wheels and the one set of BMW wheels that have 7 spokes (not the vanes).

Saw in your sig you've got a '71 MGB waiting for a 5.0 install?! Can you say "YEEEEEHHAAAHHHHHHH"! I bet the frame and suspension will have to get beefed up for that swap, but should be a hoot to drive. And with some super quiet mufflers, you can go picking off 'Vettes, 350Z's, 'Stangs, etc.!
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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I don't understand you guys at all (no offence intended here)
Jaguar spend umpteen million £ or $ to produce the perfect car and then you want to change it. At the same time, everybody says that they want their car to be as close to the original as can be.
My head hurts . lol.
 
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Old May 24, 2012 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Oubadah
That isn't blackout trim, that's half-n-half. This is the full black: http://www.bmgbuk.com/images/galleri...r-xjr-side.jpg
Good education for the colonials. From past threads it seems everyone wants the trim that was *not* standard for their own markets.
 
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Old May 25, 2012 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by socal1200r
Saw in your sig you've got a '71 MGB waiting for a 5.0 install?! Can you say "YEEEEEHHAAAHHHHHHH"! I bet the frame and suspension will have to get beefed up for that swap, but should be a hoot to drive. And with some super quiet mufflers, you can go picking off 'Vettes, 350Z's, 'Stangs, etc.!
You can leave everything else stock, maybe beef up the brakes a little. But, like any car, there are mods, and products to help keep the rubber to the road. There's a nice 4-link system for the rear that I'd like, and a new front cross member, but the front setup (full suspension and engine cradle is over $3k) is a bit over the top.

I'll do the upgrades one at a time once I get the car going. That's what winters are for. I'll do the rear first, since I'm sure I'll destroy it before too long. Most opt for a chevy bolt pattern, so maybe I'll use a Jag wheel on it - keep it British.
 
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Old May 25, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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When I was looking to sell the non-Jag wheels that came on my 97 VDP, I found this website to be of use:

Vehicle Bolt Pattern Guide - Vehicle Lug Reference

First you find the details on your bolt pattern.
Then you look up the bolt pattern for another vehicle, and compare.
In addition to bolt pattern, it also shows lug size, center hole size, and offset.

In my case, I wanted my ad to list all other vehicles that could potentially use my wheels. It was a bit painful, but I went through all the other vehicle brands on the site and came up with this list:

The 5x120.7 bolt pattern is used on:

BMW – All models and years with 5 lug nuts.

SOME models/years of the following:
Buick – Le Sabre, Riviera, Roadmaster, Estate Wagon
Cadillac – Eldorado, Fleetwood, Seville
Chevrolet – Camaro, Corvette, and many older mid and full size
Dodge – Cyclone, Typhoon, El Camino, Caballero
Ford – Sonoma, S-10, S-15 Blazer, Jimmy
Isuzu – Hombre
Jaguar – XJ, XK
Oldsmobile – Toronado, Bravada, and many old mid and full size
Pontiac - Firebird, Trans Am, Phoenix, and many older mid and full size


For the listing of SOME models/years, you’d need to use the site to pick them out. The list above considers only the bolt pattern, not the center hole or the offset, but I figured that a buyer could check that in the charts for his own vehicle.

Perhaps this will be useful to someone else.
 
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Old May 25, 2012 | 04:50 PM
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BLUF (Bottom Line Up Front, it's a military thing): when looking at different wheels for my '96 XJ6, Chevy and BMW wheels seem to be the 95 percent solution, with add'l filters of center hub opening and offset...

GBMTKJ - the cars listed after your Dodge and Ford headers are all Chevy/GMC products...
 
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Originally Posted by socal1200r
Another option that I've heard should work are the 5x120 wheels that are common on BMWs. 'Course the BMW logos would be removed!

These wheels would work, since they're 16x7, +20mm offset, with a 74mm hub opening:
The photoshopped images look good, however, here it is in real-life form on my 95 XJR:







These are the centre caps that are on them right now but I'm looking to see if I can manipulate some cheap, Chinese bought, Jaguar ones from eBay to fit:
 
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